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This is very painful for the people who make video's that don't attract enough subscribers to reach the 1k threshold (like makers of incidental How To video's).

This is very painful for the people who make video's that don't attract enough subscribers to reach the 1k threshold (like makers of incidental How To video's). You can have millions of views, but if you don't have enough subscribers, you won't be able to monetise and Google will profit from your work. This will push more and more people towards adblockers.

ct0 6y ago
Or an increase in premium YT accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a holiday promotion in the near future.
Gustomaximus 6y ago
Could this be something we solve with community actions. find videos that are well made, do get views and ask a community to subscribe so they cross the threshold? Its late and I'm about 5 whiskeys in so maybe a silly idea but right now I feel I'd be more than happy to hit a few channels and subscribe to help out.
- Yetanfou 6y ago
  Yes, it can be solved with community actions: the community can start using something like PeerTube to distribute their content instead of relying on centralised behemoths like Youtube. The value of Youtube lies in the content which its users upload, if you have something worth sharing on there you can also share it elsewhere. Begin by having content both on Youtube as well as PeerTube and point those who are annoyed by Youtube-ads to the ad-free PeerTube instance. Youtube will eventually change its terms and conditions so as to forbid pointing users to alternative distribution channels so the sooner you set up those alternatives and start pointing your viewers there the bigger chance you have of spreading the word. Replace the lost income from Youtube with one of the many sponsoring services, this will aid in becoming less dependent on Youtube. Once the PeerTube channel has gained traction you can put a moratorium on your Youtube presence. Keep to this and, once you are close to the end, replace old content with short trailers which point viewers to the new site. Continue publishing on the new site, if you want you can put trailers on Youtube but it is probably better to refrain from doing so as this might end up annoying viewers. Just leave a message on your channel about the move and keep it at that. Assuming that your content is worthwhile to viewers they will follow you. Don't criticise the media, become the media
faeyanpiraat 6y ago
Whether yt pays it's creators or not have no impact on ad blocker usage. Also the general population do not care about ads. I've asked my SO countless times to install an ad blocker, but she refuses. She just doesn't seem to be annoyed by the frequent irrelevant interruptions.
- perryizgr8 6y ago
  > Whether yt pays it's creators or not have no impact on ad blocker usage. It will because now YT will play ads on a lot of previously unmonetized videos. So people will watch a lot more ads.
  - joshspankit 6y ago
    Don‘t know why this got downvoted, it’s a solid point.
faeyanpiraat 6y ago
Also if you seem to be gaining traction, wouldn't you simply be able to buy 1000 subscribers for a very low price? (I'm not saying yt's rules are right, I'm just saying this might be a simple workaround)
- aequitas 6y ago
  I believe there is also a certain amount of hours that your video's need to be watched by subscribers that counts. That is probably a little more expensive to buy. Probably not worth the ROI considering the low amount of subscribers on your channel bringing in ad revenue.
SamuelResson 6y ago
I guess they will always be in favor to the channels that bring the most views/watch ratio. I think this will also do that, it wont hurt the largest creators, but it will definitely hurt the small ones. Sucks very much as it will deprive of the variety of content on YouTube

ct0 6y ago

Or an increase in premium YT accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if there is a holiday promotion in the near future.

Gustomaximus 6y ago

Could this be something we solve with community actions. find videos that are well made, do get views and ask a community to subscribe so they cross the threshold? Its late and I'm about 5 whiskeys in so maybe a silly idea but right now I feel I'd be more than happy to hit a few channels and subscribe to help out.

Yetanfou 6y ago
Yes, it can be solved with community actions: the community can start using something like PeerTube to distribute their content instead of relying on centralised behemoths like Youtube. The value of Youtube lies in the content which its users upload, if you have something worth sharing on there you can also share it elsewhere. Begin by having content both on Youtube as well as PeerTube and point those who are annoyed by Youtube-ads to the ad-free PeerTube instance. Youtube will eventually change its terms and conditions so as to forbid pointing users to alternative distribution channels so the sooner you set up those alternatives and start pointing your viewers there the bigger chance you have of spreading the word. Replace the lost income from Youtube with one of the many sponsoring services, this will aid in becoming less dependent on Youtube. Once the PeerTube channel has gained traction you can put a moratorium on your Youtube presence. Keep to this and, once you are close to the end, replace old content with short trailers which point viewers to the new site. Continue publishing on the new site, if you want you can put trailers on Youtube but it is probably better to refrain from doing so as this might end up annoying viewers. Just leave a message on your channel about the move and keep it at that. Assuming that your content is worthwhile to viewers they will follow you. Don't criticise the media, become the media

faeyanpiraat 6y ago

Whether yt pays it's creators or not have no impact on ad blocker usage. Also the general population do not care about ads. I've asked my SO countless times to install an ad blocker, but she refuses. She just doesn't seem to be annoyed by the frequent irrelevant interruptions.

perryizgr8 6y ago
> Whether yt pays it's creators or not have no impact on ad blocker usage. It will because now YT will play ads on a lot of previously unmonetized videos. So people will watch a lot more ads.
- joshspankit 6y ago
  Don‘t know why this got downvoted, it’s a solid point.

faeyanpiraat 6y ago

Also if you seem to be gaining traction, wouldn't you simply be able to buy 1000 subscribers for a very low price? (I'm not saying yt's rules are right, I'm just saying this might be a simple workaround)

aequitas 6y ago
I believe there is also a certain amount of hours that your video's need to be watched by subscribers that counts. That is probably a little more expensive to buy. Probably not worth the ROI considering the low amount of subscribers on your channel bringing in ad revenue.

SamuelResson 6y ago

I guess they will always be in favor to the channels that bring the most views/watch ratio. I think this will also do that, it wont hurt the largest creators, but it will definitely hurt the small ones. Sucks very much as it will deprive of the variety of content on YouTube