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Is there an example of a vaccine in history that produced no initial side effects but only very long term side effects (ie. several years later)?

tuna-piano 6y ago
I haven't seen that, but I'd be careful to draw the meaningfulness of that metric, as there has also never been an mRNA vaccine deployed until this year. That said, the large size of these studies should be extremely comforting to people.
- bamboozled 6y ago
  What I don’t find comforting is the fact that companies have not had approval (or even applied) for approval for a mRNA based vaccine until now. Even though they’ve had many years to do so. I know nothing about vaccines or medicine really, but I just find it hard to believe that it’s just luck that we’re all going to be taking one in under a year when there hasn’t been much push for approval before this ? Hopefully we’re not going to be pressured to be inoculated with something, anything that works, because of desperation and because managing the situation in an adult way was too hard for most world leaders. As others have said, if you’re not in a high risk group, maybe some skepticism is warranted?
White_Wolf 6y ago
2009-2010 GSK H1N1 - settled by the gov of multiple EU countries https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcolepsy-flu.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps...
- aviraldg 6y ago
  > In 2018, a study team including CDC scientists analyzed and published vaccine safety data on adjuvanted pH1N1 vaccines (arenaprix-AS03, Focetria-MF59, and Pandemrix-AS03) from 10 global study sites. Researchers did not detect any associations between the vaccines and narcolepsy.
  - White_Wolf 6y ago
    tbh I had the vaccine back then and am still fine(or I'm dreaming right now). That doesn't mean I'm for or against this new vaccine. I'll draw my conclusion when I see enough data. At the end of the day it's my choice if I do it or not since if you take the jab you should be safe either way. That being said: shutting down discourse I'm always against. Dumb or not everyone should be able to have their say as long as they don't preach violence in any way.
    - nkohari 6y ago
      With respect to the last paragraph, vaccination is a sticky topic, because the vaccine protects both you and those around you. Vaccines are not 100% effective, don't convey permanent immunity, and not everyone can be vaccinated due to various health restrictions. As a result, if you voluntarily choose not to be immunized when you could otherwise have been, you are voluntarily exposing some people you come into contact with to potential harm. It's up to you whether that falls within your definition of "violence", but some would say so.

tuna-piano 6y ago

I haven't seen that, but I'd be careful to draw the meaningfulness of that metric, as there has also never been an mRNA vaccine deployed until this year. That said, the large size of these studies should be extremely comforting to people.

bamboozled 6y ago
What I don’t find comforting is the fact that companies have not had approval (or even applied) for approval for a mRNA based vaccine until now. Even though they’ve had many years to do so. I know nothing about vaccines or medicine really, but I just find it hard to believe that it’s just luck that we’re all going to be taking one in under a year when there hasn’t been much push for approval before this ? Hopefully we’re not going to be pressured to be inoculated with something, anything that works, because of desperation and because managing the situation in an adult way was too hard for most world leaders. As others have said, if you’re not in a high risk group, maybe some skepticism is warranted?

White_Wolf 6y ago

2009-2010 GSK H1N1 - settled by the gov of multiple EU countries https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcolepsy-flu.html https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/history/narcoleps...

aviraldg 6y ago
> In 2018, a study team including CDC scientists analyzed and published vaccine safety data on adjuvanted pH1N1 vaccines (arenaprix-AS03, Focetria-MF59, and Pandemrix-AS03) from 10 global study sites. Researchers did not detect any associations between the vaccines and narcolepsy.
- White_Wolf 6y ago
  tbh I had the vaccine back then and am still fine(or I'm dreaming right now). That doesn't mean I'm for or against this new vaccine. I'll draw my conclusion when I see enough data. At the end of the day it's my choice if I do it or not since if you take the jab you should be safe either way. That being said: shutting down discourse I'm always against. Dumb or not everyone should be able to have their say as long as they don't preach violence in any way.
  - nkohari 6y ago
    With respect to the last paragraph, vaccination is a sticky topic, because the vaccine protects both you and those around you. Vaccines are not 100% effective, don't convey permanent immunity, and not everyone can be vaccinated due to various health restrictions. As a result, if you voluntarily choose not to be immunized when you could otherwise have been, you are voluntarily exposing some people you come into contact with to potential harm. It's up to you whether that falls within your definition of "violence", but some would say so.