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>If your samurai game includes werewolves and machine guns you don't get to turn around say you didn't add something because it wouldn't be historically accurat

by konjin 6y ago

>If your samurai game includes werewolves and machine guns you don't get to turn around say you didn't add something because it wouldn't be historically accurate. You have to use a better excuse, like you felt it would be dumb or that you didn't feel like it. So a werewolf invasion of the Tokugawa shogunate would need to include Latinx genderfuild bipocs or be racist? I guess I'm racist then. Puts on Nazi hat and reads historically accurate accounts of Stalingrad

dagw 6y ago
So a werewolf invasion of the Tokugawa shogunate would need to include Latinx genderfuild bipocs or be racist? Literally no one is saying that. I guess I'm racist then. If that makes you happy.
- konjin 6y ago
  >Literally no one is saying that. You literally were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy
  - dagw 6y ago
    Not at all. My point isn't that you must include diverse characters, but that you cannot say "I really wanted to included more diverse characters in my werewolf samurai game, but couldn't because of historical accuracy". You should be honest and say something like "I didn't add South American warriors to my samurai werewolf game because it honestly never crossed my mind to do so, and even if it had I wouldn't do it because it goes against the feel and aesthetic I was going for."
    - konjin 6y ago
      The only thing you need to defend in a game is why it doesn't have laser raptors, because there is no game that doesn't get better with laser raptors.
ljm 6y ago
> Latinx genderfuild bipocs I can't help but think there's a field of woke eugenics that uses terms like this completely unironically.
- newacct583 6y ago
  Why are you both doing this? Those are terms that have been used by real people to describe themselves. There's room for discussion about what they describe, how they should be used, etc... Identity is a hard problem. But they aren't jokes. You're using them now because they're new and you can get away with it, but could you imagine your same logic in another decade picking on "spicks, fags and niggers" using the same logic. Is that really what you're trying to say? If not, how?

by konjin 6y ago

dagw 6y ago

So a werewolf invasion of the Tokugawa shogunate would need to include Latinx genderfuild bipocs or be racist? Literally no one is saying that. I guess I'm racist then. If that makes you happy.

konjin 6y ago
>Literally no one is saying that. You literally were: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motte-and-bailey_fallacy
- dagw 6y ago
  Not at all. My point isn't that you must include diverse characters, but that you cannot say "I really wanted to included more diverse characters in my werewolf samurai game, but couldn't because of historical accuracy". You should be honest and say something like "I didn't add South American warriors to my samurai werewolf game because it honestly never crossed my mind to do so, and even if it had I wouldn't do it because it goes against the feel and aesthetic I was going for."
  - konjin 6y ago
    The only thing you need to defend in a game is why it doesn't have laser raptors, because there is no game that doesn't get better with laser raptors.

ljm 6y ago

> Latinx genderfuild bipocs I can't help but think there's a field of woke eugenics that uses terms like this completely unironically.

newacct583 6y ago
Why are you both doing this? Those are terms that have been used by real people to describe themselves. There's room for discussion about what they describe, how they should be used, etc... Identity is a hard problem. But they aren't jokes. You're using them now because they're new and you can get away with it, but could you imagine your same logic in another decade picking on "spicks, fags and niggers" using the same logic. Is that really what you're trying to say? If not, how?