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Despite being extremely pro-vac I'm going to postpone getting vaccinated with this for as long as possible (at least a couple of years hopefully). Even if they

Despite being extremely pro-vac I'm going to postpone getting vaccinated with this for as long as possible (at least a couple of years hopefully). Even if they would disallow me to travel abroad I would rather stay in my home country. I've heard about a guy who volunteered to try the Russian vaccine - he got extremely sick and almost died from inflammatory cardiomyopathy as the result. So I want to see thousands of people who to get vaccinated and keep fine for some long time after that.

baybal2 6y ago
And what so? Sputnik 5 is a live virus vaccine, Moderna and Fizer are RNA vaccines with, hopefully, no live viral material as such.
- DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
  It's not really a "live" virus - it's an adenovirus (actually, two types of adenovirus) that's been modified so that it can't replicate. The adenoviruses have also been modified to carry the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
  - baybal2 6y ago
    Not really, it's not an inactivated adenovirus, just a strain that is much less strong in humans.
    - DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
      They apparently use what are called "replication-incompetent" or "replication-deficient" vectors: adenoviruses that have been genetically modified to be incapable of (or not very good at - I'm not sure) replicating. Importantly, the vaccine does not use SARS-CoV-2, even in a weakened form. It just presents a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
chadash 6y ago
I heard about several guys who died or were seriously injured by Covid. I know a few of them personally. Pick your poison.
- raptor99 6y ago
  I know what you mean. I know several people who died or were seriously injured by cars. I don't go near them anymore.
jbd28 6y ago
This isn’t a mid 2000s windows OS update. Don’t be part of the problem, take the shot and grow up
- qwerty456127 6y ago
  > This isn’t a mid 2000s windows OS update. It always is. This can never change. Experience has cemented "always wait for a service pack" as my #1 rule of life.
  - blueline 6y ago
    very scientific
- splaytreemap 6y ago
  Implying people are children for holding different views than you is way less persuasive than you seem to think it is.
prh8 6y ago
So....don't take the Russian vaccine? Maybe take notice the of 20k in each trial who have received the vaccine? Or maybe just go get Covid and trust those results?
- qwerty456127 6y ago
  > Or maybe just go get Covid and trust those results? I believe I already had it. I have experienced unusual body temperature fluctuations and really unusual heart quirks on a weekend some months ago. My boss got tested (out of curiosity) positive for the antibodies. The numbers are huge and I meet a huge lot of people every day (nobody I've met in person reported any symptoms though). It seems logical to me all of us (people I know) have already had light/asymptomatic covid. I never meet old or fat people, I miss some but prefer not to risk.

baybal2 6y ago

And what so? Sputnik 5 is a live virus vaccine, Moderna and Fizer are RNA vaccines with, hopefully, no live viral material as such.

DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
It's not really a "live" virus - it's an adenovirus (actually, two types of adenovirus) that's been modified so that it can't replicate. The adenoviruses have also been modified to carry the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.
- baybal2 6y ago
  Not really, it's not an inactivated adenovirus, just a strain that is much less strong in humans.
  - DiogenesKynikos 6y ago
    They apparently use what are called "replication-incompetent" or "replication-deficient" vectors: adenoviruses that have been genetically modified to be incapable of (or not very good at - I'm not sure) replicating. Importantly, the vaccine does not use SARS-CoV-2, even in a weakened form. It just presents a SARS-CoV-2 spike protein.

chadash 6y ago

I heard about several guys who died or were seriously injured by Covid. I know a few of them personally. Pick your poison.

raptor99 6y ago
I know what you mean. I know several people who died or were seriously injured by cars. I don't go near them anymore.

jbd28 6y ago

This isn’t a mid 2000s windows OS update. Don’t be part of the problem, take the shot and grow up

qwerty456127 6y ago
> This isn’t a mid 2000s windows OS update. It always is. This can never change. Experience has cemented "always wait for a service pack" as my #1 rule of life.
- blueline 6y ago
  very scientific
splaytreemap 6y ago
Implying people are children for holding different views than you is way less persuasive than you seem to think it is.

prh8 6y ago

So....don't take the Russian vaccine? Maybe take notice the of 20k in each trial who have received the vaccine? Or maybe just go get Covid and trust those results?

qwerty456127 6y ago
> Or maybe just go get Covid and trust those results? I believe I already had it. I have experienced unusual body temperature fluctuations and really unusual heart quirks on a weekend some months ago. My boss got tested (out of curiosity) positive for the antibodies. The numbers are huge and I meet a huge lot of people every day (nobody I've met in person reported any symptoms though). It seems logical to me all of us (people I know) have already had light/asymptomatic covid. I never meet old or fat people, I miss some but prefer not to risk.