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Vikings invade England, pillage and massacre the English, yet they are still seen as the good guys. I wonder if the people who made this game have some histori
by torginus 6y ago
Vikings invade England, pillage and massacre the English, yet they are still seen as the good guys.
I wonder if the people who made this game have some historical resentment towards the English.
- goatinaboat 6y agoVikings invade England, pillage and massacre the English, yet they are still seen as the good guys. It's curious that what is now Britain has been invaded and its people enslaved many times over the centuries but no modern day British person harbours any resentment for it towards present day Italians, Scandinavians, French, Moroccans...
- pas 6y agoAre you sure? There are always a few ultra-nationalists in every country.
- rgblambda 6y agoMoroccans? Think you mean Dutch. Unless you're talking about the Barbary pirates.
- Shish2k 6y agoWe were never taught that we were invaded by those nations - history lessons talk about “Romans”, “Saxons”, and “Normans”. None of those nations are around any more, so the obvious conclusion is that we must’ve “won”, probably by virtue of England being the strongest most pure-blooded nation, or something like that...
- goatinaboat 6y agoNone of those nations are around any more, so the obvious conclusion is that we must’ve “won”, probably by virtue of England being the strongest most pure-blooded nation, or something like that... You must have had a very different education than me then. We were taught that the Vikings we bought off, the Roman Empire collapsed for reasons unrelated to us, and the Normans stayed and intermingled with the population. Nevertheless for a present day Brit to harbour resentment against a present day dweller in Rome because of galley slaves would be considered utterly absurd.
- shusson 6y agoWhat do you mean by "English", in a modern day sense or in a 10th century sense? I'm not even sure there was a concept of "English" in the 10th century.
- billyoyo 6y agoit was precisely the 10th century when the concept of English emerged, with Athelstan being regarded as the first king of England. the ideas of a unified Anglo Saxon people started to emerge at the end of the 9th century I believe, with leaders like Alfred the Great
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoWhat he means is that you can't expect a mostly French Canadian talent pool to create a work of fiction that isn't at least slightly biased against the English. Everyone has their biases.
- belval 6y agoThis is just untrue. Most French Canadian don't have anything against the English and most certainly did not use a video game to express their "anger" of events that happened more than 300 years ago. 9th century England had very little in common with the British empire of the 18th century that crushed the French in America. If you want to argue that they have biases against the English because they are "French" Canadian, then I think you need to avoid making claims on the Internet on topics of which you know nothing.
- throwaway0a5e 6y agoMost Americans don't have anything against the Russians yet they seem to be the default bad guys in a lot of our fictional entertainment. And you need to do some reading up on Canadian history. French Canada doesn't like the rest of Canada and vise versa. But the animosity extends in part to the European counterparts. You seem to think I think the Ubisoft employees are seething with hatred for the English. I don't. I'm just saying that given their cultural baggage (as a group) this is likely to a blind spot where they're less likely to notice.
- Bayart 6y agoViking fetishism is very much an artifact of English-speaking pop culture. I don't think people have as much an agenda about England as they have about what medieval England might represent in an English-speaking context : traditional authority structures (monarchy and Christianity) and a military culture driven by male aggression.
- crocodiletears 6y agoUbisoft is French…