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These are all very bold claims, is there any evidence for it? Or to be frank: do you own Bitcoin and are you trying to (maybe even unconsciously) drum up deman

These are all very bold claims, is there any evidence for it? Or to be frank: do you own Bitcoin and are you trying to (maybe even unconsciously) drum up demand with evidence free posts like this? What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. And please don’t point to biased sources with an interest in Crypto.

rglullis 6y ago
You want to find someone is believes in the technology but that does not want to go it get more adoption. You know that you are asking for an impossible argument, right? If I tell you that thanks to Bitcoin I could move money between three different countries without paying conversion fees or that it was my work on Blockchain technology that has paid my bills for the past two years, would you start looking into it? If I tell you that my current project can help, I don't know, people in Lebanon to escape their disastrous monetary policy and be in control of their own assets, would you give it a chance? If I tell you that I switched my browser from Firefox to another that is using blockchain to build an alternative that can fight Surveillance Capitalism, would you take seriously only those who don't hold any of the token or would you prefer to listen to someone who has skin in the game? By your standard, every source will be "biased". The question is then if there any point on the scales you see yourself that can actually make it tip over.
- louwrentius 6y ago
  To answer your questions honestly, no to all of them. Sending money across countries over the world for less cost is not worth the environmental cost to me. I believe the problems in Lebanon can’t be solved with technology because I think trust / a culture can’t be solved with technology. I believe your choice of browser does little in the context of the other 90% who is still on Facebook although I honestly have respect for your dedication and efforts. I do want a sound justification for a new tech that is consuming the power of a small Europan country.
  - rglullis 6y ago
    Another one with the fixed set mentality... let's go for another round. > I do want a sound justification for a new tech that is consuming the power of a small Europan country. The need to consume that much energy is not inherit to the tech. It is just an issue of the current implementation. No one is shrugging their shoulders and saying "it is what it is". What they are saying is "This is one of the many issues that we need to address and we are working towards a solution." Do you know of any new technology that come into existence already free of issues and as efficient as physically possible? Me neither. Also: should I assume that you don't fly anywhere? Don't buy anything from China? Only consumes local produce? Is your concern with the environment guiding all your lifestyle choices or only those you don't care about? > problems in Lebanon (...) can’t be solved with technology. No, the tech does not solve anything by itself. The tech is just an instrument, and it is an instrument that can help people there to escape government measures that lead to mismanagement of resources and favoring bankers. The tech can allow smaller groups of people to be their own (their communities) banks and not having to rely on a centralized "too big to fail" system. The instrument does not "solve" anything. But it allows people to change the scale of the problem. It's much easier to recover from many shocks spread around smaller entities than to recover from one Black Swan event that can wipe out everyone at once. > I believe your choice of browser does little in the context of the other 90% who is still on Facebook although I honestly have respect for your dedication and efforts. Again, the tech is not what is going to solve anything. Brave (the browser) and BAT are just instruments that we have at our disposal to affect the change that we want for our lives. Quite frankly, are you the type of person that always waits everyone else to do something in order to think it is worthy doing? Must be horrible to live with such apathy.
    - louwrentius 6y ago
      > Do you know of any new technology that come into existence already free of issues and as efficient as physically possible? Me neither. After 12 years of crypto and blockchain the tech has nothing to show for itself, but to facilitate crime and people chasing lambo money. > Also: should I assume that you don't fly anywhere? Don't buy anything from China? Only consumes local produce? Oh so predictable. I should warn people up front not to come up with whataboutism that just deflect valid criticism. You can’t get away with theft by pointing at somebody else and cry “but but (s)he stole too!”. > The instrument does not "solve" anything. But it allows people to change the scale of the problem. It all reads like after the fact reasoning to me by people just chasing lambo money. Your story was never why all those firestarters bought mining rigs to consume 3KW 24/7. But back to those poor countries: I would like to see (hypothetically) actual independent evidence of a positive impact of crypto for those people, but I am very skeptical > Quite frankly, are you the type of person that always waits everyone else to do something in order to think it is worthy doing? Must be horrible to live with such apathy. What remains is a weak ad hominem, I think I’m done now. Anyway, I do wish you good luck, if I am proven wrong, that would be a good thing.

rglullis 6y ago

You want to find someone is believes in the technology but that does not want to go it get more adoption. You know that you are asking for an impossible argument, right? If I tell you that thanks to Bitcoin I could move money between three different countries without paying conversion fees or that it was my work on Blockchain technology that has paid my bills for the past two years, would you start looking into it? If I tell you that my current project can help, I don't know, people in Lebanon to escape their disastrous monetary policy and be in control of their own assets, would you give it a chance? If I tell you that I switched my browser from Firefox to another that is using blockchain to build an alternative that can fight Surveillance Capitalism, would you take seriously only those who don't hold any of the token or would you prefer to listen to someone who has skin in the game? By your standard, every source will be "biased". The question is then if there any point on the scales you see yourself that can actually make it tip over.

louwrentius 6y ago
To answer your questions honestly, no to all of them. Sending money across countries over the world for less cost is not worth the environmental cost to me. I believe the problems in Lebanon can’t be solved with technology because I think trust / a culture can’t be solved with technology. I believe your choice of browser does little in the context of the other 90% who is still on Facebook although I honestly have respect for your dedication and efforts. I do want a sound justification for a new tech that is consuming the power of a small Europan country.
- rglullis 6y ago
  Another one with the fixed set mentality... let's go for another round. > I do want a sound justification for a new tech that is consuming the power of a small Europan country. The need to consume that much energy is not inherit to the tech. It is just an issue of the current implementation. No one is shrugging their shoulders and saying "it is what it is". What they are saying is "This is one of the many issues that we need to address and we are working towards a solution." Do you know of any new technology that come into existence already free of issues and as efficient as physically possible? Me neither. Also: should I assume that you don't fly anywhere? Don't buy anything from China? Only consumes local produce? Is your concern with the environment guiding all your lifestyle choices or only those you don't care about? > problems in Lebanon (...) can’t be solved with technology. No, the tech does not solve anything by itself. The tech is just an instrument, and it is an instrument that can help people there to escape government measures that lead to mismanagement of resources and favoring bankers. The tech can allow smaller groups of people to be their own (their communities) banks and not having to rely on a centralized "too big to fail" system. The instrument does not "solve" anything. But it allows people to change the scale of the problem. It's much easier to recover from many shocks spread around smaller entities than to recover from one Black Swan event that can wipe out everyone at once. > I believe your choice of browser does little in the context of the other 90% who is still on Facebook although I honestly have respect for your dedication and efforts. Again, the tech is not what is going to solve anything. Brave (the browser) and BAT are just instruments that we have at our disposal to affect the change that we want for our lives. Quite frankly, are you the type of person that always waits everyone else to do something in order to think it is worthy doing? Must be horrible to live with such apathy.
  - louwrentius 6y ago
    > Do you know of any new technology that come into existence already free of issues and as efficient as physically possible? Me neither. After 12 years of crypto and blockchain the tech has nothing to show for itself, but to facilitate crime and people chasing lambo money. > Also: should I assume that you don't fly anywhere? Don't buy anything from China? Only consumes local produce? Oh so predictable. I should warn people up front not to come up with whataboutism that just deflect valid criticism. You can’t get away with theft by pointing at somebody else and cry “but but (s)he stole too!”. > The instrument does not "solve" anything. But it allows people to change the scale of the problem. It all reads like after the fact reasoning to me by people just chasing lambo money. Your story was never why all those firestarters bought mining rigs to consume 3KW 24/7. But back to those poor countries: I would like to see (hypothetically) actual independent evidence of a positive impact of crypto for those people, but I am very skeptical > Quite frankly, are you the type of person that always waits everyone else to do something in order to think it is worthy doing? Must be horrible to live with such apathy. What remains is a weak ad hominem, I think I’m done now. Anyway, I do wish you good luck, if I am proven wrong, that would be a good thing.