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I had quick look around and it doesn't seem to be an actuall scam. They have them out in the field selling small batches and there is no telltale 1 million $ k

I had quick look around and it doesn't seem to be an actuall scam. They have them out in the field selling small batches and there is no telltale 1 million $ kickstarter promising rocket bike powered by solar and wind pressure. This device seems to be capturing a kinetic energy and storing it in the springs that release it to assist/smooth-out peddling? In a test clip a guy pushes down on tire and the lifts the tire and it spins ligthly. Akin to a gently push you would give to spin a wheel when fixing it and checking if its aligned (actually its less force then that). I wonder how much of assist energy it really generates and if it makes any difference.

hannasanarion 6y ago
Rewatch that clip: he never lets the wheel do a full rotation, and once it turns 180° it starts slowing down, and then for the second demonstration he rotates it some more so that the same part is back at the top. It's not a power source, it's a pendulum. edit: and while there wasn't a $1 million kickstarter, there was a $60,000 "flexible spend" indiegogo, which is an even stronger telltale for a scam.
franciscop 6y ago
That's possible; there's energy when you sit down, but not just for "being sitted down", only when sitting down or standing up. Having a look at the "how it works" website and how they claim it's energy just because of your weight I double down on a scam: https://www.superwheelsystem.com/how-super-wheel-works/ https://www.superwheelsystem.com/how-super-wheel-works/ If it was as claimed, you would be able to put this in a circular road, add a lot of weight and then have a motor provide N watts of power and get out M > N watts of power.
- me_me_me 6y ago
  I think that as you pedal you shift your weight, also wobble a bit, and any uneven road surfaces can be harvested theoretically by this. This doesn't create free energy it just captures inefficiencies created by transfer of energy from your muscles to the wheel. But there is no free cake. This can't work by just sitting still at it :) Also 30% improvement sounds like a outright lie or marketing PR talk. Anyhow even if real i dont care about +300$ wheels.
throwaway2245 6y ago
> In a test clip a guy pushes down on tire and the lifts the tire and it spins ligthly. Doesn't this happen with any bike wheel? If I give a wheel a near-imperceptible horizontal nudge just as the wheel lifts off the ground, a bike wheel should be frictionless enough to move at least that much.

hannasanarion 6y ago

Rewatch that clip: he never lets the wheel do a full rotation, and once it turns 180° it starts slowing down, and then for the second demonstration he rotates it some more so that the same part is back at the top. It's not a power source, it's a pendulum. edit: and while there wasn't a $1 million kickstarter, there was a $60,000 "flexible spend" indiegogo, which is an even stronger telltale for a scam.

franciscop 6y ago

That's possible; there's energy when you sit down, but not just for "being sitted down", only when sitting down or standing up. Having a look at the "how it works" website and how they claim it's energy just because of your weight I double down on a scam: https://www.superwheelsystem.com/how-super-wheel-works/ https://www.superwheelsystem.com/how-super-wheel-works/ If it was as claimed, you would be able to put this in a circular road, add a lot of weight and then have a motor provide N watts of power and get out M > N watts of power.

me_me_me 6y ago
I think that as you pedal you shift your weight, also wobble a bit, and any uneven road surfaces can be harvested theoretically by this. This doesn't create free energy it just captures inefficiencies created by transfer of energy from your muscles to the wheel. But there is no free cake. This can't work by just sitting still at it :) Also 30% improvement sounds like a outright lie or marketing PR talk. Anyhow even if real i dont care about +300$ wheels.

throwaway2245 6y ago

> In a test clip a guy pushes down on tire and the lifts the tire and it spins ligthly. Doesn't this happen with any bike wheel? If I give a wheel a near-imperceptible horizontal nudge just as the wheel lifts off the ground, a bike wheel should be frictionless enough to move at least that much.