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"Artificial" diamonds. Unless I've misread something, these are genuine diamonds. IE, carbon crystals. "Artificial" makes people think of moissanite and simil

by billpg 6y ago

"Artificial" diamonds. Unless I've misread something, these are genuine diamonds. IE, carbon crystals. "Artificial" makes people think of moissanite and similar materials.

init 6y ago
In common parlance "artificial" means man-made. Moissanite can be naturally occurring so it's a diamond-replacement or a "fake" diamond when used in rings and jewelry.
- billpg 6y ago
  Then "artificial" adds nothing. Just call them diamonds.
  - neals 6y ago
    There's a certain monopoly that needs this distinction for the brainwashing of a large part of the population to be profitable.
    - astrea 6y ago
      This place has devolved into reddit
- sharpneli 6y ago
  It depends. In case of Artificial leather it refers clearly not to lab grown animal skin but to a completely different product that just tries to emulate leather. So the word is used in different contexts. And De Beers is more than willing to use the term artificial diamond. They can claim that they're not lying, but they're also very happy that it's also easy for customers to think its artificial in the fake sense, not in the man-made sense.
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  - jolmg 6y ago
    > In case of Artificial leather it refers clearly not to lab grown animal skin but to a completely different product that just tries to emulate leather. Because lab-grown animal skin is not on the market (as far as I know), so artificial implies that it's fake. If it were, though, and at least roughly as common as fake leather. I'm sure no-one would try to refer to it as natural. It would still be artificial, and artificial would cease to imply it being fake. If people choose to refer to fake leather as artificial leather, it's because artificial, real leather was hardly in the realm of the imaginable. Many would refer to it as impossible or at least as an act against God. > So the word is used in different contexts. What's being used in different contexts is the word "leather" to refer to both real and fake leather. "Artificial" is always used to refer to the non-natural, the man-made. I can't think of any case where it's used differently.
codeulike 6y ago
defintion: Artificial made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, especially as a copy of something natural. "her skin glowed in the artificial light" https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+artificial https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+artificial
- taneq 6y ago
  Precisely. Photons from an LED are indistinguishable from any other photons of the same wavelength, yet the light is, nonetheless, artificial.
- BrandonMarc 6y ago
  Wooosh
Gibbon1 6y ago
Last time I paid any attention to this, so terminalogy might have changed. Natural: Mined. Synthetic: Lab grown but real. Artificial: Another substance that looks similar. Random thought, someones going to make bank growing synthetic leather.

by billpg 6y ago

"Artificial" diamonds. Unless I've misread something, these are genuine diamonds. IE, carbon crystals. "Artificial" makes people think of moissanite and similar materials.

init 6y ago

In common parlance "artificial" means man-made. Moissanite can be naturally occurring so it's a diamond-replacement or a "fake" diamond when used in rings and jewelry.

billpg 6y ago
Then "artificial" adds nothing. Just call them diamonds.
- neals 6y ago
  There's a certain monopoly that needs this distinction for the brainwashing of a large part of the population to be profitable.
  - astrea 6y ago
    This place has devolved into reddit
sharpneli 6y ago
It depends. In case of Artificial leather it refers clearly not to lab grown animal skin but to a completely different product that just tries to emulate leather. So the word is used in different contexts. And De Beers is more than willing to use the term artificial diamond. They can claim that they're not lying, but they're also very happy that it's also easy for customers to think its artificial in the fake sense, not in the man-made sense.
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- jolmg 6y ago
  > In case of Artificial leather it refers clearly not to lab grown animal skin but to a completely different product that just tries to emulate leather. Because lab-grown animal skin is not on the market (as far as I know), so artificial implies that it's fake. If it were, though, and at least roughly as common as fake leather. I'm sure no-one would try to refer to it as natural. It would still be artificial, and artificial would cease to imply it being fake. If people choose to refer to fake leather as artificial leather, it's because artificial, real leather was hardly in the realm of the imaginable. Many would refer to it as impossible or at least as an act against God. > So the word is used in different contexts. What's being used in different contexts is the word "leather" to refer to both real and fake leather. "Artificial" is always used to refer to the non-natural, the man-made. I can't think of any case where it's used differently.

codeulike 6y ago

defintion: Artificial made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, especially as a copy of something natural. "her skin glowed in the artificial light" https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+artificial https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3A+artificial

taneq 6y ago
Precisely. Photons from an LED are indistinguishable from any other photons of the same wavelength, yet the light is, nonetheless, artificial.
BrandonMarc 6y ago
Wooosh

Gibbon1 6y ago

Last time I paid any attention to this, so terminalogy might have changed. Natural: Mined. Synthetic: Lab grown but real. Artificial: Another substance that looks similar. Random thought, someones going to make bank growing synthetic leather.