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Given that a run of the mill game weights north of 50 gigs, I don't think an additional 100 or so megs per app would be noticeable.

by yoz-y 6y ago

Hamuko 6y ago
Weirdly enough I don't actually have that many 50 GB games installed on my Macs. I do have a 300 MB chat application though.
- Chyzwar 6y ago
  Well, there is not so many games for Mac.
croes 6y ago
It's a difference if I have a 50GB game with high res textures or a simple app with 100MB which as a native app would only need less than 1MB. Web technologies are more and more about developer convenience instead of user convenience.
- 411111111111111 6y ago
  Feel free not to use them then. It's usually more along the lines of product owners preferring features over speed though Especially if the product owner is the developer itself, as features are way more fun to produce then fighting through some native docs which sometimes don't even work anymore.
  - innagadadavida 6y ago
    > It's usually more along the lines of product owners preferring features over speed though It’s also about being a able to ship a v1 product quickly and capture market share quickly. You can optimize speed and memory in future releases. Definitely not the best for the users.
- yoz-y 6y ago
  > Web technologies are more and more about developer convenience instead of user convenience. Clearly. But I wonder: If electron didn't exist, would e.g.: Slack or Discord applications be native or wouldn't exist at all. I'm quite convinced that the latter is true.
  - NullPrefix 6y ago
    >Slack or Discord applications [..] wouldn't exist at all You say it like it's a bad thing.
    - yoz-y 6y ago
      Nobody is forced to use them, if you like having the chat in a browser fine, more power to you. People who prefer clients can install those, also good. I'd also like to live in an alternative universe where all companies can pay more developers to develop native applications for all platforms, unfortunately that is not the case.
  - anoncake 6y ago
    Chat applications existed long before Electron.
    - yoz-y 6y ago
      That wasn't my point, just examples. Chat apps did exist but Slack, Discord, VS Code, Obsidian, GitKraken and so on and so forth did not. Personally I prefer a native app. But I'd rather have an electron app with real notifications, dock icon, and isolation over a browser tab.

Given that a run of the mill game weights north of 50 gigs, I don't think an additional 100 or so megs per app would be noticeable.

by yoz-y 6y ago

Given that a run of the mill game weights north of 50 gigs, I don't think an additional 100 or so megs per app would be noticeable.

Hamuko 6y ago

Weirdly enough I don't actually have that many 50 GB games installed on my Macs. I do have a 300 MB chat application though.

Chyzwar 6y ago
Well, there is not so many games for Mac.

croes 6y ago

It's a difference if I have a 50GB game with high res textures or a simple app with 100MB which as a native app would only need less than 1MB. Web technologies are more and more about developer convenience instead of user convenience.

411111111111111 6y ago
Feel free not to use them then. It's usually more along the lines of product owners preferring features over speed though Especially if the product owner is the developer itself, as features are way more fun to produce then fighting through some native docs which sometimes don't even work anymore.
- innagadadavida 6y ago
  > It's usually more along the lines of product owners preferring features over speed though It’s also about being a able to ship a v1 product quickly and capture market share quickly. You can optimize speed and memory in future releases. Definitely not the best for the users.
yoz-y 6y ago
> Web technologies are more and more about developer convenience instead of user convenience. Clearly. But I wonder: If electron didn't exist, would e.g.: Slack or Discord applications be native or wouldn't exist at all. I'm quite convinced that the latter is true.
- NullPrefix 6y ago
  >Slack or Discord applications [..] wouldn't exist at all You say it like it's a bad thing.
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    Nobody is forced to use them, if you like having the chat in a browser fine, more power to you. People who prefer clients can install those, also good. I'd also like to live in an alternative universe where all companies can pay more developers to develop native applications for all platforms, unfortunately that is not the case.
- anoncake 6y ago
  Chat applications existed long before Electron.
  - yoz-y 6y ago
    That wasn't my point, just examples. Chat apps did exist but Slack, Discord, VS Code, Obsidian, GitKraken and so on and so forth did not. Personally I prefer a native app. But I'd rather have an electron app with real notifications, dock icon, and isolation over a browser tab.