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Ducted fans still run into the same issues if the airflow reaching the blades is supersonic. However with a ducted fan you can have the inlet slow the air down
by jjk166 6y ago
Ducted fans still run into the same issues if the airflow reaching the blades is supersonic. However with a ducted fan you can have the inlet slow the air down to subsonic speeds. In this way ducted fans are used in nearly all supersonic aircraft today. It should be noted though that these turbofans for supersonic use are way smaller than those in use for subsonic aircraft. A 3 meter diameter fan is close to the current limit for such subsonic flight fans, scaling up a supersonic fan that large is still non-trivial.
As for heating up the air and pushing it out, that concept is known as an airbreathing arcjet, which is really just a ramjet. While preventing the electrode from eroding is something of a technical challenge, it's comparatively mild. The main issue here is just power: batteries tend to discharge slowly so to get enough instantaneous power you need a very large number of batteries discharging in parallel, which are very heavy. However if you're just looking to set a speed record and not actually fly any useful distance, this may not be too much of an issue. Personally an arcjet would be my strategy of choice.
- m463 6y agoCouldn't you have a supersonic inlet widening into an area with a subsonic fan, then narrowing again to a supersonic outlet? Sort of like medium inlet, x-large fan area, small outlet?
- jjk166 6y agoYes that's exactly the principle. You can get up to about mach 3 to mach 4 before stagnation temperature (when you slow down a supersonic flow, it heats up) starts making this approach impractical. But there's no way of getting around the fact that if you have a 3 meter diameter fan, you have at the very minimum a 7 m^2 cross sectional area that you are sticking into a supersonic airstream, and in reality that inlet is going to be pretty beefy too. That creates a lot of drag that the fan needs to overcome to produce net thrust.
- m463 6y ago> That creates a lot of drag that the fan needs to overcome to produce net thrust. That's a great point, thank you for educating me.