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I don't think this is the fatal reason Flash is stopped. Flash is only forbidden in mobile web browsers. Flash is mainly self-cancelled by Adobe itself. It loo

by tapirl 6y ago

I don't think this is the fatal reason Flash is stopped. Flash is only forbidden in mobile web browsers. Flash is mainly self-cancelled by Adobe itself. It looks they couldn't get expected revenue from this product. However, I think they are short-sighted at this point.

omghashtag 6y ago
Flash abandoned their own product only after it wasn't allowed on iPhones anymore.
spullara 6y ago
It was also disallowed from publishing flash apps in the app store. Once the developers left it was as good as dead IMHO and all that kind of content moved to mobile.
- mattmanser 6y ago
  Definitely. I remember at the time Adobe Air was still recently new and there was some buzz around in the tech scenes because everyone like Balsamiq Mockups, which originally was only in available in Adobe Air. Then Apple announced they weren't going to support flash and overnight everyone realized flash was dead, and Air and Silverlight were both a dead end. I was working on a Silverlight product at the time and it got canned soon after too, with Microsoft soon losing enthusiasm for it too. Some oldies from here: 2007 - Steve Jobs saying Flash is bad for video: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=130496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=130496 2008 - John Gruber being prescient about Apple banning flash compiler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=320431 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=320431 2010 - Apple bans Flash-to-iPhone Compiler (2nd comment thread is pg saying he's against it ideologically): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1250799 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1250799
- kmeisthax 6y ago
  This is untrue. Apple attempted to ban all third-party development tools, but never actually enforced the rule due to the threat of a lawsuit from the FTC. They dropped the rule about three months after Jobs' famous "Thoughts on Flash", but the fact that developers still remember the ban is probably a good chunk of why people forgot about the exporter.
  - spullara 6y ago
    That was much later and too late for flash. https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/05/ftc_believed_to_be_investigating_apples_anti_flash_stance https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/05/ftc_believed_to_b...

by tapirl 6y ago

omghashtag 6y ago

Flash abandoned their own product only after it wasn't allowed on iPhones anymore.

spullara 6y ago

It was also disallowed from publishing flash apps in the app store. Once the developers left it was as good as dead IMHO and all that kind of content moved to mobile.

mattmanser 6y ago
Definitely. I remember at the time Adobe Air was still recently new and there was some buzz around in the tech scenes because everyone like Balsamiq Mockups, which originally was only in available in Adobe Air. Then Apple announced they weren't going to support flash and overnight everyone realized flash was dead, and Air and Silverlight were both a dead end. I was working on a Silverlight product at the time and it got canned soon after too, with Microsoft soon losing enthusiasm for it too. Some oldies from here: 2007 - Steve Jobs saying Flash is bad for video: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=130496 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=130496 2008 - John Gruber being prescient about Apple banning flash compiler: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=320431 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=320431 2010 - Apple bans Flash-to-iPhone Compiler (2nd comment thread is pg saying he's against it ideologically): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1250799 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1250799
kmeisthax 6y ago
This is untrue. Apple attempted to ban all third-party development tools, but never actually enforced the rule due to the threat of a lawsuit from the FTC. They dropped the rule about three months after Jobs' famous "Thoughts on Flash", but the fact that developers still remember the ban is probably a good chunk of why people forgot about the exporter.
- spullara 6y ago
  That was much later and too late for flash. https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/05/ftc_believed_to_be_investigating_apples_anti_flash_stance https://appleinsider.com/articles/10/08/05/ftc_believed_to_b...