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> It is basically a simplified rehash of Gilbert Ling's Association Induction Hypothesis (AIH), which stipulates no membranes for cells and cellular entities N

by 1996 6y ago

> It is basically a simplified rehash of Gilbert Ling's Association Induction Hypothesis (AIH), which stipulates no membranes for cells and cellular entities No it's not - it's a refinement of current theories that is perfectly compatible with the existence of membranes. FYI, we are still working on the basics. Recently, we found free floating mitochondrias in the blood (outside cells!), and now we have the idea that cells exchange mitochondrias: http://www.sci-news.com/biology/cell-free-mitochondria-human-blood-08051.html http://www.sci-news.com/biology/cell-free-mitochondria-human...

dragonwriter 6y ago
> [...] mitochondrias [...] nitpick, but "mitochondria" is already the plural; the singular is "mitochondrion".
Baeocystin 6y ago
>“When we consider the sheer number of extracellular mitochondria found in the blood, we have to ask why such a discovery had not been made before,” Dr. Thierry said. Heck of an understatement! It amazes me both how much and how little we know about life at the same time.
- 1996 6y ago
  Mitochondria floating in the blood is the #1 candidate explanation for why blood transfer from young to old animals can rejuvenate them, and vice-versa.
andrewflnr 6y ago
To be fair, (as someone who just heard about this today) it seems like the theory is not that cell membranes are pure fantasy, but that they don't play the role biologists usually think they do. It has more to do with sodium pumps at the membrane than existence of the membrane itself. Which is still pure crank territory, but, you know, not quite that crazy.
LetThereBeLight 6y ago
Indeed. In fact there are several works directly showing the formation of protein phase separation occurring at the inner membrane surface to cluster receptors [1,2]. [1] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6431/1093 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6431/1093 [2] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6285/595 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6285/595

by 1996 6y ago

dragonwriter 6y ago

> [...] mitochondrias [...] nitpick, but "mitochondria" is already the plural; the singular is "mitochondrion".

Baeocystin 6y ago

>“When we consider the sheer number of extracellular mitochondria found in the blood, we have to ask why such a discovery had not been made before,” Dr. Thierry said. Heck of an understatement! It amazes me both how much and how little we know about life at the same time.

1996 6y ago
Mitochondria floating in the blood is the #1 candidate explanation for why blood transfer from young to old animals can rejuvenate them, and vice-versa.

andrewflnr 6y ago

To be fair, (as someone who just heard about this today) it seems like the theory is not that cell membranes are pure fantasy, but that they don't play the role biologists usually think they do. It has more to do with sodium pumps at the membrane than existence of the membrane itself. Which is still pure crank territory, but, you know, not quite that crazy.

LetThereBeLight 6y ago

Indeed. In fact there are several works directly showing the formation of protein phase separation occurring at the inner membrane surface to cluster receptors [1,2]. [1] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6431/1093 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/363/6431/1093 [2] https://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6285/595 https://science.sciencemag.org/content/352/6285/595