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All Your Base Are Belong To Us... preserved forever: https://archive.org/details/flash_allyourbase https://archive.org/details/flash_allyourbase

pier25 6y ago
What you say!!
grishka 6y ago
Oh. For some reason I very much like the memes from that era, and I've seen this particular one for the first time.
- TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
  Huh, interesting you don’t know that one. Memes had a bigger impact then: there were fewer of them, they were more unexpected (because they were newer), and in fact the word meme either did not exist or, if it did, it was certainly not in widespread use. Anyway: “ On June 1, 2006, YouTube was taken down temporarily for maintenance. The phrase "ALL YOUR VIDEO ARE BELONG TO US" appeared below the YouTube logo as a placeholder while the site was down. Some users believed the site had been hacked, leading YouTube to add the message ‘ "No, we haven't be [sic] hacked. Get a sense of humor.”’ I can’t imagine YouTube doing anything like that today for a meme?
  - krapp 6y ago
    >and in fact the word meme either did not exist or, if it did, it was certainly not in widespread use. The word meme was coined by Richard Dawkins in his book The Selfish Gene, in 1976. The internet got the term from the book.
    - TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
      Thanks, but as I said, it was not in widespread use in the 90s... at least not in an internet context.
      - Izkata 6y ago
        Merriam-Webster has a 1998 [0] reference that sounds close to the modern usage, though I don't know when got popular - at or before 2008 though, based on their next example. I do vaguely remember "viral video" and "image macro" were distinct in the early/mid-00s though, at the time I don't think they were grouped together under "meme". [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/meme-word-origins-history https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/meme-word-orig...
        TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
        Ah the dancing baby meme. That was huge and you could buy a software “package” on windows that had hundreds of video variations of the baby. I still have that software (no, I did not buy it).
  - etrabroline 6y ago
    That's because it was probably just one guy who had the authority to put that there without any threat of getting fired. Google today would set up a committee with diverse groups represented (including HR, PR and Legal) to focus test any and all potential "hate joke incidents" to ensure bland and inoffensiveness to all. The ongoing YouRube Rewind fiasco demonstrates this very well. I have to thank the Japanese for having a sense of humor otherwise "all your base" would have died a slow and painful death long ago at the hands of the joke police, and it still might if it were to ever leave its relative obscurity.
    - TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
      > The ongoing YouRube Rewind fiasco demonstrates this very well. Do you have a link for this? I’d like to read more about it. Searching for YT Rewind gave me the Wikipedia article and some scrubbed articles that don’t include stuff a out a fiasco.
      - michaelt 6y ago
        I believe they mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_Controls_Rewind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_... a youtube video which youtube featured prominently on the front page and which received a lot of downvotes at the time. Julia Alexander of The Verge suggested that YouTube had intentionally left out the biggest moments on the platform in 2018 from the video in an attempt to calm concerned advertisers over controversies that had plagued the platform over the past 2 years, saying "it's increasingly apparent, however, that YouTube is trying to sell a culture that's different from the one millions of people come to the platform for, and that's getting harder for both creators and fans to swallow".
  - grishka 6y ago
    The elusive kind of company that is run by engineers, not financial people. I miss these dearly.
- Kye 6y ago
  You might like The $20,000 Zig, a Smurf-themed variation. https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/19369 https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/19369 It's not on archive.org yet as far as I can tell.
cogman10 6y ago
Amazing that the whole thing lived in ~1.7mb of data. Really crazy how little data went into stuff like that.
- acqq 6y ago
  The famous original "Napster Bad" (1) from 2000 was around 2 and half minutes long and only 600 KB (!) (specifically: 606,555 bytes -- just checked). http://www.fastswf.com/jDwfXOc http://www.fastswf.com/jDwfXOc And as it's drawn with vector graphics (I guess?) it can be sharper than most of the videos of that that you can find today (or was it fixed? I don't remember -- at least it looked so sharp then!). Anyway, the following video on youtube is approximately the content of the 600 KB swf, but, of course, with unchangeable and limited pixel rendering -- and around 50 MB in highest resolution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKX2bNP7QM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKX2bNP7QM Edit: Just found -- the special edition captured in the above video is ~ 700 KB swf (719,527 bytes): http://gpatricka.net/assets/napsterbad.swf http://gpatricka.net/assets/napsterbad.swf There, having 100 KB more, one can also click to see the "deleted scene", play a small "game" or read the hate mail. And it does render across my full screen. Edit 2: Tried ruffle. It can play that swf. Ruffle good. (But it seems that the lines are thicker and that the connections don't look the same) 1) https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/NapsterBad https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/NapsterB...
  - egypturnash 6y ago
    > as it's drawn with vector graphics (I guess?) Yeah, Flash was fundamentally a vector format for much of its life. It started adding bitmaps after a while, I wanna say in the Flash 5 era? It's been a long time and I've deliberately put a lot of my time with Flash in the mental vault, as it was also mostly time working under John K. Anyway. I spent a lot of time hand-optimizing autotraces of scans of ink drawings, and even more time moving them around in sync to dialogue. Flash was very much about sending compact vector representations over your 28.8kbaud modem connection and moving them around instead of sending anything like what we would call a video stream, until they added the FLV format and YouTube happened.

pier25 6y ago

What you say!!

grishka 6y ago

Oh. For some reason I very much like the memes from that era, and I've seen this particular one for the first time.

TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
Huh, interesting you don’t know that one. Memes had a bigger impact then: there were fewer of them, they were more unexpected (because they were newer), and in fact the word meme either did not exist or, if it did, it was certainly not in widespread use. Anyway: “ On June 1, 2006, YouTube was taken down temporarily for maintenance. The phrase "ALL YOUR VIDEO ARE BELONG TO US" appeared below the YouTube logo as a placeholder while the site was down. Some users believed the site had been hacked, leading YouTube to add the message ‘ "No, we haven't be [sic] hacked. Get a sense of humor.”’ I can’t imagine YouTube doing anything like that today for a meme?
- krapp 6y ago
  >and in fact the word meme either did not exist or, if it did, it was certainly not in widespread use. The word meme was coined by Richard Dawkins in his book The Selfish Gene, in 1976. The internet got the term from the book.
  - TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
    Thanks, but as I said, it was not in widespread use in the 90s... at least not in an internet context.
    - Izkata 6y ago
      Merriam-Webster has a 1998 [0] reference that sounds close to the modern usage, though I don't know when got popular - at or before 2008 though, based on their next example. I do vaguely remember "viral video" and "image macro" were distinct in the early/mid-00s though, at the time I don't think they were grouped together under "meme". [0] https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/meme-word-origins-history https://www.merriam-webster.com/words-at-play/meme-word-orig...
      - TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
        Ah the dancing baby meme. That was huge and you could buy a software “package” on windows that had hundreds of video variations of the baby. I still have that software (no, I did not buy it).
- etrabroline 6y ago
  That's because it was probably just one guy who had the authority to put that there without any threat of getting fired. Google today would set up a committee with diverse groups represented (including HR, PR and Legal) to focus test any and all potential "hate joke incidents" to ensure bland and inoffensiveness to all. The ongoing YouRube Rewind fiasco demonstrates this very well. I have to thank the Japanese for having a sense of humor otherwise "all your base" would have died a slow and painful death long ago at the hands of the joke police, and it still might if it were to ever leave its relative obscurity.
  - TedDoesntTalk 6y ago
    > The ongoing YouRube Rewind fiasco demonstrates this very well. Do you have a link for this? I’d like to read more about it. Searching for YT Rewind gave me the Wikipedia article and some scrubbed articles that don’t include stuff a out a fiasco.
    - michaelt 6y ago
      I believe they mean https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_Controls_Rewind https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_Rewind_2018:_Everyone_... a youtube video which youtube featured prominently on the front page and which received a lot of downvotes at the time. Julia Alexander of The Verge suggested that YouTube had intentionally left out the biggest moments on the platform in 2018 from the video in an attempt to calm concerned advertisers over controversies that had plagued the platform over the past 2 years, saying "it's increasingly apparent, however, that YouTube is trying to sell a culture that's different from the one millions of people come to the platform for, and that's getting harder for both creators and fans to swallow".
- grishka 6y ago
  The elusive kind of company that is run by engineers, not financial people. I miss these dearly.
Kye 6y ago
You might like The $20,000 Zig, a Smurf-themed variation. https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/19369 https://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/19369 It's not on archive.org yet as far as I can tell.

cogman10 6y ago

Amazing that the whole thing lived in ~1.7mb of data. Really crazy how little data went into stuff like that.

acqq 6y ago
The famous original "Napster Bad" (1) from 2000 was around 2 and half minutes long and only 600 KB (!) (specifically: 606,555 bytes -- just checked). http://www.fastswf.com/jDwfXOc http://www.fastswf.com/jDwfXOc And as it's drawn with vector graphics (I guess?) it can be sharper than most of the videos of that that you can find today (or was it fixed? I don't remember -- at least it looked so sharp then!). Anyway, the following video on youtube is approximately the content of the 600 KB swf, but, of course, with unchangeable and limited pixel rendering -- and around 50 MB in highest resolution. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKX2bNP7QM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeKX2bNP7QM Edit: Just found -- the special edition captured in the above video is ~ 700 KB swf (719,527 bytes): http://gpatricka.net/assets/napsterbad.swf http://gpatricka.net/assets/napsterbad.swf There, having 100 KB more, one can also click to see the "deleted scene", play a small "game" or read the hate mail. And it does render across my full screen. Edit 2: Tried ruffle. It can play that swf. Ruffle good. (But it seems that the lines are thicker and that the connections don't look the same) 1) https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/NapsterBad https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/WebAnimation/NapsterB...
- egypturnash 6y ago
  > as it's drawn with vector graphics (I guess?) Yeah, Flash was fundamentally a vector format for much of its life. It started adding bitmaps after a while, I wanna say in the Flash 5 era? It's been a long time and I've deliberately put a lot of my time with Flash in the mental vault, as it was also mostly time working under John K. Anyway. I spent a lot of time hand-optimizing autotraces of scans of ink drawings, and even more time moving them around in sync to dialogue. Flash was very much about sending compact vector representations over your 28.8kbaud modem connection and moving them around instead of sending anything like what we would call a video stream, until they added the FLV format and YouTube happened.