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What problems have had advancements in treatment in the last 20 years? HIV/AIDS, cancer, diabetes. Those are just three things off the top of my head that I kno

What problems have had advancements in treatment in the last 20 years? HIV/AIDS, cancer, diabetes. Those are just three things off the top of my head that I know have improved, even without data to support me. I'm not sure, with the speed of technological improvements in the last decade, that 20 years is appropriate.

marcell 6y ago
Curious if you looked at the underlying data. Aside from 2018, this year does not even look like much of an outlier: https://mobile.twitter.com/TLennhamn/status/1295269505984344064/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/TLennhamn/status/1295269505984344... . 2012 seems to have been deadlier, for Sweden, than 2020, which was 8 years ago.
- Spare_account 6y ago
  What about other countries?
  - 0-_-0 6y ago
    Other coutries used lockdowns.
    - fairity 6y ago
      Sweden basically did a lockdown - it just wasn't state-mandated. If you look at the mobility data [1], you'll see that Sweden followed a very similar trend to its neighbors, and actually maintained lower mobility after other state-mandated lockdowns let up. [1] https://www.teliacompany.com/sv/om-foretaget/uppdatering/mobility-analysis/ https://www.teliacompany.com/sv/om-foretaget/uppdatering/mob...
      - 0-_-0 6y ago
        The arbitrary choice of the reference point makes that bad data.
        Gwypaas 6y ago
        Either way, using Stockholm as the geographical reference point the chosen point correlates against dark cold Januari/Februari with average temperatures of -1°C and 7-8 hours of twilight. Considering that keeping the relative number below at the height of summer is quite impressive.
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samatman 6y ago
Over the last two decades, life expectancy has either peaked in the developed world, or has even declined for some demographics. Seems appropriate to me.
- mcguire 6y ago
  Not in Sweden. Life expectancy has gone from 77.4 to 81.3 for men since 2000. It does go up every year except for 2014/2015 (80.4 to 80.3). https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subject-area/population/population-composition/population-statistics/pong/tables-and-graphs/yearly-statistics--the-whole-country/summary-of-population-statistics/ https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subje...
  - Veen 6y ago
    Interestingly, in the UK the average age of people who die from coronavirus (82.4) is slightly older than the average age of people dying of other causes (81.5). https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronavirus-fatalities-is-82-pcwqrzdzz https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronaviru...
    - rualca 6y ago
      Why, think about it. Covid deaths are practically concentrated on age groups over 65 years old. People dying from other causes aggregate multiple causes which, due to the aggregation, are spread out over the whole age range. Due to the pyramid shape of the population distribution (they call it population pyramid for a reason) then the median and the mean are shifted towards the base/younger age groups. Hell, if a disease affected mankind in a way that killed everyone uniformly, the average age of people dying would be around 30 years old. The way you presented your conclusion implies that dying from covid actually extends your life, which is absurd. Instead, it just reads that it kills older people disproportionately, and the older you are the more likely you are of dying from it.
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marcell 6y ago

Curious if you looked at the underlying data. Aside from 2018, this year does not even look like much of an outlier: https://mobile.twitter.com/TLennhamn/status/1295269505984344064/photo/1 https://mobile.twitter.com/TLennhamn/status/1295269505984344... . 2012 seems to have been deadlier, for Sweden, than 2020, which was 8 years ago.

Spare_account 6y ago
What about other countries?
- 0-_-0 6y ago
  Other coutries used lockdowns.
  - fairity 6y ago
    Sweden basically did a lockdown - it just wasn't state-mandated. If you look at the mobility data [1], you'll see that Sweden followed a very similar trend to its neighbors, and actually maintained lower mobility after other state-mandated lockdowns let up. [1] https://www.teliacompany.com/sv/om-foretaget/uppdatering/mobility-analysis/ https://www.teliacompany.com/sv/om-foretaget/uppdatering/mob...
    - 0-_-0 6y ago
      The arbitrary choice of the reference point makes that bad data.
      - Gwypaas 6y ago
        Either way, using Stockholm as the geographical reference point the chosen point correlates against dark cold Januari/Februari with average temperatures of -1°C and 7-8 hours of twilight. Considering that keeping the relative number below at the height of summer is quite impressive.
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samatman 6y ago

Over the last two decades, life expectancy has either peaked in the developed world, or has even declined for some demographics. Seems appropriate to me.

mcguire 6y ago
Not in Sweden. Life expectancy has gone from 77.4 to 81.3 for men since 2000. It does go up every year except for 2014/2015 (80.4 to 80.3). https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subject-area/population/population-composition/population-statistics/pong/tables-and-graphs/yearly-statistics--the-whole-country/summary-of-population-statistics/ https://www.scb.se/en/finding-statistics/statistics-by-subje...
- Veen 6y ago
  Interestingly, in the UK the average age of people who die from coronavirus (82.4) is slightly older than the average age of people dying of other causes (81.5). https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronavirus-fatalities-is-82-pcwqrzdzz https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/average-age-of-coronaviru...
  - rualca 6y ago
    Why, think about it. Covid deaths are practically concentrated on age groups over 65 years old. People dying from other causes aggregate multiple causes which, due to the aggregation, are spread out over the whole age range. Due to the pyramid shape of the population distribution (they call it population pyramid for a reason) then the median and the mean are shifted towards the base/younger age groups. Hell, if a disease affected mankind in a way that killed everyone uniformly, the average age of people dying would be around 30 years old. The way you presented your conclusion implies that dying from covid actually extends your life, which is absurd. Instead, it just reads that it kills older people disproportionately, and the older you are the more likely you are of dying from it.
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