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German Anti-Lockdown Activist Dr. Andreas Noack Arrested During Livestream

17 points by wsc981 6y ago

stkdump 6y ago
The full video is on youtube. Just in the first 5 minutes they are discussing how it is impossible to overthrow the "system" with legal (democratic) methods. Conspiring to remove democracy is illegal in Germany.
- funcDropShadow 6y ago
  > Conspiring to remove democracy is illegal in Germany. As it should be.
  - 983472 6y ago
    No it shouldn't. It's fundamentally authoritarian to subject people to violence for expressing ideas and opinions even if that opinion is that "democracy" as defined by the state should be removed.
- TacoLeader 6y ago
  >Conspiring to remove democracy is illegal in Germany. The political left is screaming for "revolution" all the time. Reforms take patience, time and compromise. In our culture of instant-gratification nobody has that patience anymore. Democratic rights are slowly eroded by the corrupt political elite under the pretense of lockdown measures. The prostesters see this "Infektionsschutzgesetz" as Germany's version of the PATRIOT Act. Convenient neverending powers to subjugate dissenters. The German mainstream and state media is also complicit in this with decrying brutal police response in Belarus while at the same vilifying anti-government protests in Germany.
  - Gibbon1 6y ago
    > The political left is screaming for "revolution" all the time. Oh definitely the left is always advocating violent revolution.
warpspin 6y ago
Awful propaganda. That guy is not even a medical doctor, I doubt he will have been arrested for "providing medical assistance" and the connection to the new law, which is not even fully in effect yet (and was not in effect at all during the raid), is construed extensively, or to say, pure fiction. What is this even meant to imply? That you can simply arrest people for being "anti lockdown"?
- 983472 6y ago
  > That guy is not even a medical doctor What is he a doctor in?
  - warpspin 6y ago
    Apparently chemistry. He's practicing as a kind of nutritionist with some strange esoteric views. It seems the police stormed multiple apartments in that house after being tipped off about illegal drug dealing. This is totally not related at all to COVID or the lockdown and it seems not even specifically targetted at him.
    - atleta 6y ago
      Do you have any reliable source for this? Because I'm already seeing idiots posting this around as further evidence for their lunatic "there's no virus AND the virus is a Chinese bio weapon AND it's created by Bill Gates so that he can kill more people with the vaccine AND at the same time it's for the benefit of the vaccine makers/big pharma companies so that they can sell more fake vaccine" conspiration theory.
      - warpspin 6y ago
        There's some German language articles in respectable sources: https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article220598702/Polizei-Durchsuchung-bei-YouTuber-Noack-live-im-Internet-zu-sehen.html https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article220598702/Polizei-Dur... https://www.infranken.de/lk/fuerth/mit-maschinengewehr-im-anschlag-polizei-stuermt-wohnung-im-kreis-fuerth-youtuber-streamt-einsatz-live-art-5116332 https://www.infranken.de/lk/fuerth/mit-maschinengewehr-im-an... Police confirmed he was not the target of the operation but was searching for a different person, but so far denied giving exact information, probably due to running investigations, only hinting it might have to do with drugs. There's a bit of background information about Noack in Psiram, which is a German wiki documenting the activity of truthers, conspiracy theorists and "alternative medicine" protagonists: https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Andreas_Noack https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Andreas_Noack

17 points by wsc981 6y ago

The full video is on youtube. Just in the first 5 minutes they are discussing how it is impossible to overthrow the "system" with legal (democratic) methods. Conspiring to remove democracy is illegal in Germany.

funcDropShadow 6y ago
> Conspiring to remove democracy is illegal in Germany. As it should be.
- 983472 6y ago
  No it shouldn't. It's fundamentally authoritarian to subject people to violence for expressing ideas and opinions even if that opinion is that "democracy" as defined by the state should be removed.
TacoLeader 6y ago
>Conspiring to remove democracy is illegal in Germany. The political left is screaming for "revolution" all the time. Reforms take patience, time and compromise. In our culture of instant-gratification nobody has that patience anymore. Democratic rights are slowly eroded by the corrupt political elite under the pretense of lockdown measures. The prostesters see this "Infektionsschutzgesetz" as Germany's version of the PATRIOT Act. Convenient neverending powers to subjugate dissenters. The German mainstream and state media is also complicit in this with decrying brutal police response in Belarus while at the same vilifying anti-government protests in Germany.
- Gibbon1 6y ago
  > The political left is screaming for "revolution" all the time. Oh definitely the left is always advocating violent revolution.

warpspin 6y ago

Awful propaganda. That guy is not even a medical doctor, I doubt he will have been arrested for "providing medical assistance" and the connection to the new law, which is not even fully in effect yet (and was not in effect at all during the raid), is construed extensively, or to say, pure fiction. What is this even meant to imply? That you can simply arrest people for being "anti lockdown"?

983472 6y ago
> That guy is not even a medical doctor What is he a doctor in?
- warpspin 6y ago
  Apparently chemistry. He's practicing as a kind of nutritionist with some strange esoteric views. It seems the police stormed multiple apartments in that house after being tipped off about illegal drug dealing. This is totally not related at all to COVID or the lockdown and it seems not even specifically targetted at him.
  - atleta 6y ago
    Do you have any reliable source for this? Because I'm already seeing idiots posting this around as further evidence for their lunatic "there's no virus AND the virus is a Chinese bio weapon AND it's created by Bill Gates so that he can kill more people with the vaccine AND at the same time it's for the benefit of the vaccine makers/big pharma companies so that they can sell more fake vaccine" conspiration theory.
    - warpspin 6y ago
      There's some German language articles in respectable sources: https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article220598702/Polizei-Durchsuchung-bei-YouTuber-Noack-live-im-Internet-zu-sehen.html https://www.welt.de/vermischtes/article220598702/Polizei-Dur... https://www.infranken.de/lk/fuerth/mit-maschinengewehr-im-anschlag-polizei-stuermt-wohnung-im-kreis-fuerth-youtuber-streamt-einsatz-live-art-5116332 https://www.infranken.de/lk/fuerth/mit-maschinengewehr-im-an... Police confirmed he was not the target of the operation but was searching for a different person, but so far denied giving exact information, probably due to running investigations, only hinting it might have to do with drugs. There's a bit of background information about Noack in Psiram, which is a German wiki documenting the activity of truthers, conspiracy theorists and "alternative medicine" protagonists: https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Andreas_Noack https://www.psiram.com/de/index.php/Andreas_Noack