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Similarly we've gone from the CIA/FBI being "big brother" to social media companies filling the role.
by nwsm 6y ago
Similarly we've gone from the CIA/FBI being "big brother" to social media companies filling the role.
- newsclues 6y agoNot sure if this is mildly better or severely worse
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- emteycz 6y agoDefinitely better. Facebook won't make you disappear.
- oyashirochama 6y agoI mean it will, just socially and financially.
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- ryandrake 6y agoSorry, as someone who doesn't use Facebook, how does Facebook have the power make me disappear, socially and financially?
- InitialLastName 6y agoI think the argument is that, should Facebook use become pervasive enough that the bulk of interaction, be it social or financial happens there, you have already disappeared by nature of not using it.
- Damogran6 6y agoIf you ARE using Facebook socially, they can turn down who sees your communications...kinda like shadowbanning.
- smsm42 6y agoOrganize and signal-boost the mob that wants to persecute you, ban and deplatform anybody who dares to defend you, promote any material saying bad things about you, suppress any material that says good things about you. You don't live in a vacuum, neither does your employer, neither do your employer's clients, neither does your family, neither does their employer, neither do teachers at the school you kids go to... etc. etc. You get the idea. You don't have to be a member of the platform for it to be used to attack you.
- dredmorbius 6y agoFacebook, willingly or not, is part of the same entities' sourcing and influencing activities. We know this as established fact. Both your side's and various multipolar others.
- dredmorbius 6y agoSnowden. Cambridge Analytica. Cozy Bear. Black Cube. "How the U.S. Military Buys Location Data from Ordinary Apps" https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqm5x/us-military-location-data-xmode-locate-x https://www.vice.com/en/article/jgqm5x/us-military-location-... (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25113117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25113117)
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- dredmorbius 6y agoI'm curious as to what if any disagreement there is here.
- crankyoldcrank 6y agoNot even remotely similar. First of all, the CIA is primarily concerned with foreign intelligence, so you mean to be concerned with the NSA and the FBI. With a warrant, the FBI can get everything about you from your ISP, tap your phone lines, hell they can bug your house. Social media is nothing. It's the low hanging fruit. With the NSA there's dragnet surveillance on internet backbones. There again, the kind of monitoring any social media company might be able to do simply pales in comparison to dragnet metadata analysis of all Internet traffic. If you're an actual target of the NSA good fucking luck. Social media might be terrible and draconian but if you want to talk about big brother the real fun doesn't even start until you have State actors in your threat model.
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y agoWhy the hyperbole? "Big Brother" can disappear you into the night, never to be seen again till someone unearths a mass grave many decades later. Social media has no such power.
- rootsudo 6y agoYou think so? Get the right campaign, the right urgency, and you can embolden people to do anything you want because they think it is right.
- cratermoon 6y agostochastic terrorism would enters the chat
- x86_64Ubuntu 6y agoStochastic terrorism still isn't Big Brother.