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"Linux native is not in the cards" Sorry I'm not in the loop.. but why is that? Does the hardware somehow preclude it?

by geokon 6y ago

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em500 6y ago
The locked bootloader will only run Apple signed operating systems (a la Chromebook, without the Chromebook Developer mode escape hatch). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23640746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23640746
- coldtea 6y ago
  Actually that's not the case. This post is misinformed (and 4 months old). There was a breakdown from an official Apple page how to boot alternative systems on an M1.
  - unix_fan 6y ago
    https://twitter.com/never_released/status/1327398102983176192 https://twitter.com/never_released/status/132739810298317619...
  - unicornporn 6y ago
    > There was a breakdown from an official Apple page how to boot alternative systems on an M1. Link please.
    - my123 6y ago
      That's the kmutil manpage section about it: https://twitter.com/comex/status/1328800304318603265?s=20 https://twitter.com/comex/status/1328800304318603265?s=20 That work doesn't seem to be complete yet however in the latest beta.
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  - coldtea 6y ago
    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25145119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25145119 Choose one of the following security options: Full Security: Ensures that only your current OS, or signed operating system software currently trusted by Apple, can run. This mode requires a network connection at software installation time. Reduced Security: Allows any version of signed operating system software ever trusted by Apple to run. Permissive Security: Does not enforce any requirements on the bootable operating system. Note: The Permissive Security option appears only when System Integrity Protection (SIP) is disabled. To disable SIP, start up your Mac in macOS Recovery, open Terminal, then run the command csrutil disable.
- easton 6y ago
  You can still disable secure boot just fine, just run “csrutil disable” from recovery and the option magically appears. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/macos-recovery-a-mac-apple-silicon-mchl82829c17/11.0/mac/11.0#mchl9b13cbdc https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/macos-recovery-a-ma...
  - kzrdude 6y ago
    Is it durable or can it be forgotten as a setting? I would be looking at plain Linux boot and erasing Mac os, so any dependency on Mac tools would be nonideal.
    - my123 6y ago
      At this point, it's very much preferable to keep macOS. The bringup for the drivers for that SoC will take a while. It won't all be available instantly. Note on those Macs that the security settings are boot volume specific, so that you can have a volume with all security off for fun, and still have a completely secure macOS install selectable via dual-boot.
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"Linux native is not in the cards" Sorry I'm not in the loop.. but why is that? Does the hardware somehow preclude it?

by geokon 6y ago

"Linux native is not in the cards" Sorry I'm not in the loop.. but why is that? Does the hardware somehow preclude it?

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em500 6y ago

The locked bootloader will only run Apple signed operating systems (a la Chromebook, without the Chromebook Developer mode escape hatch). https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23640746 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23640746

coldtea 6y ago
Actually that's not the case. This post is misinformed (and 4 months old). There was a breakdown from an official Apple page how to boot alternative systems on an M1.
- unix_fan 6y ago
  https://twitter.com/never_released/status/1327398102983176192 https://twitter.com/never_released/status/132739810298317619...
- unicornporn 6y ago
  > There was a breakdown from an official Apple page how to boot alternative systems on an M1. Link please.
  - my123 6y ago
    That's the kmutil manpage section about it: https://twitter.com/comex/status/1328800304318603265?s=20 https://twitter.com/comex/status/1328800304318603265?s=20 That work doesn't seem to be complete yet however in the latest beta.
- deleted 6y ago
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- coldtea 6y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25145119 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25145119 Choose one of the following security options: Full Security: Ensures that only your current OS, or signed operating system software currently trusted by Apple, can run. This mode requires a network connection at software installation time. Reduced Security: Allows any version of signed operating system software ever trusted by Apple to run. Permissive Security: Does not enforce any requirements on the bootable operating system. Note: The Permissive Security option appears only when System Integrity Protection (SIP) is disabled. To disable SIP, start up your Mac in macOS Recovery, open Terminal, then run the command csrutil disable.
easton 6y ago
You can still disable secure boot just fine, just run “csrutil disable” from recovery and the option magically appears. https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/macos-recovery-a-mac-apple-silicon-mchl82829c17/11.0/mac/11.0#mchl9b13cbdc https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/macos-recovery-a-ma...
- kzrdude 6y ago
  Is it durable or can it be forgotten as a setting? I would be looking at plain Linux boot and erasing Mac os, so any dependency on Mac tools would be nonideal.
  - my123 6y ago
    At this point, it's very much preferable to keep macOS. The bringup for the drivers for that SoC will take a while. It won't all be available instantly. Note on those Macs that the security settings are boot volume specific, so that you can have a volume with all security off for fun, and still have a completely secure macOS install selectable via dual-boot.

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