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I really want the air for when I work outside in the summer. I worked from an iPad quite often with the magic keyboard, and it started throttling and sometimes
by shmoogy 6y ago
I really want the air for when I work outside in the summer. I worked from an iPad quite often with the magic keyboard, and it started throttling and sometimes overheated to the point of failure while outside in the sun.
It's too cold in Chicago to test, but I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun - it's the only reason I'm considering the MBP.
- duncanawoods 6y ago> I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun I'm not optimistic. An unused iPhone 7 will go into an overheating error state if left in direct sunlight on a British summer's day. I don't know how newer models cope.
- markphip 6y agoThe Daring Fireball review of the MBP had this to say about the fan ... "The two machines are equivalently fast in a sprint, but the MacBook Pro will win a distance race. But Apple doesn’t call it a “fan”. They call it an “active cooling system”. That sounds like a marketing euphemism, but it’s not fair to call this a “fan”. It is something else altogether, and nothing at all like the cooling systems in any previous Mac laptop. I’ve never once heard it in an entire week. Never. Not once. Not a whisper. I presume it has engaged at times when I’ve taxed the system. Again, the Cinebench multi-core CPU benchmark taxes every available CPU core for 10 minutes. But if the active cooling system has kicked in, I never heard it. I’ve never felt any air moving out of the vents, either. This is nothing at all like the fans on Intel-based MacBooks, which, if you’re not familiar, you can definitely hear, to say the least." https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs
- cujo 6y agoWouldn’t the air have the same problem? With no fan it’ll still heat up and have to throttle down.
- stickyricky 6y agoIf you're using the computer outdoors its best to get the MBP for the brighter screen.
- addaon 6y agoOne of the challenges of using a large-screen device in the sun is that most screen technologies (including transmissive LCD and OLED, but excluding eInk and transflective LCDs) are inherently "black" -- they absorb light energy that hits them. Even when they're displaying a white screen, they're absorbing nearly all of the light hitting them, and then emitting their own energy. One of my mild annoyances with the iPhone 12 is that there's no white option. I have a white iPhone 10, and it's essential equipment for me as a convertible driver -- on a sufficiently sunny day, the phone will overheat on the center console screen-up, even when it's powered off! But with the white side up, it's fine even on sunny days breaking 110 degF. The only way around this I could see for laptops and tablets in the sun would be a return to transflective displays or other non-black options... which would also be a huge boost to battery life in well-lit conditions. But none of these techs seem to have comparable image quality, and there are some inherent challenges (potentially addressable, but challenges) with color balance etc.
- tpush 6y ago> One of my mild annoyances with the iPhone 12 is that there's no white option. But there is a white iPhone 12? I have one myself. Or is not white enough/too matte or something?
- addaon 6y agoWhoops! My mistake, thanks for that! I has been looking only at the Pro out of habit, but this might push me towards the non-Pro this generation.
- tpush 6y agoIf it helps, I'm perfectly contend with the non-pro iPhone 12. The aluminum sides + white back look really great, too!
- kingnothing 6y agoOr buy a white case?
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- rconti 6y agoOrder a silver one instead of a dark grey one, just to be safe? :)
- reaperducer 6y agoIt's too cold in Chicago to test I used to have one of those massive 17" MacBooks (Best keyboard ever), and it used to heat up enough to turn my thighs red. Back then, Apple avoided calling them "laptops," perhaps for this reason. Then I moved to Chicago, and found it was a wonderful machine for using outside on my balcony in cold weather because it would keep at least half of me toasty. If I started to get chilly, I'd fire up Virtual PC and snuggle in.
- jordache 6y agowhy would you want to work under direct sunlight? you can barely see the screen in that condition
- shmoogy 6y agoI sit at my patio table and move twice during the day if I am out long enough. I face the sun, to tan, and my screen is away from it (behind it). When the sun is directly above I move under the shade. It helps increase my mood, and productivity.
- tomaskafka 6y ago+1 - I love the MB12, but then a summer arrived and I found out that stays under 1 GHz basically all the time when I'm outside.