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If a laptop's performance is on a par with a desktop's, and the fan's aren't going crazy, I'd call that a big win! My 2018 MB Pro has the fans running most of t
by cjrp 6y ago
If a laptop's performance is on a par with a desktop's, and the fan's aren't going crazy, I'd call that a big win! My 2018 MB Pro has the fans running most of the time, and even then sometimes throttles back the CPU.
- rimliu 6y agoOriginal comment mentions MB Air, Air has no fans (now that sounds funny :)
- vishnugupta 6y agoOf all the things unveiled during the launch event no-fan thing completely blew me away. That, I was not prepared for! I now wonder, does that mean that MB Air has no moving parts inside it at all?
- xuki 6y agoYes, like an iPhone or iPad.
- kgwgk 6y agoAnd like the 2015-2019 MacBook.
- rorykoehler 6y agoI hope they do this form factor again with the new chips
- ksec 6y agoI am thinking may be next year or the year after. The MacBook Pro will get new Design, at 16" and 14". ( I hope instead of going thinner they could stay within the current cooling TDP ) Then the MacBook Air will have a 14" as well, before a 12" MacBook Air is introduced at a lower price range, possibly at $799.
- kgwgk 6y ago> a 12" MacBook Air is introduced at a lower price range, possibly at $799. That would be great. But it could make more difficult to sell an iPadPro (starting at $799) with a MagicKeyboard (starting at $300) as an alternative to a laptop.
- robin_reala 6y agoThere’s the haptic feedback for the trackpad.
- TMWNN 6y ago>I now wonder, does that mean that MB Air has no moving parts inside it at all? In addition, does that mean that the Air has no air vents? Is it a completely sealed unit, like an iPhone?
- Joeri 6y agoThe keyboard is still a big mess of moving parts, but there is indeed one less moving part to break.
- mensetmanusman 6y agoThe electrons are moving millions of miles.
- snazz 6y agoThe MacBook Air that GP mentioned doesn't even have a fan! That's certainly a nice benefit.
- davio 6y agoThat's the entire reason I bought mine. Replaced the early 2020 model. I had complete peace and quiet during all of my video calls yesterday
- shmoogy 6y agoI really want the air for when I work outside in the summer. I worked from an iPad quite often with the magic keyboard, and it started throttling and sometimes overheated to the point of failure while outside in the sun. It's too cold in Chicago to test, but I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun - it's the only reason I'm considering the MBP.
- duncanawoods 6y ago> I would love to see if the MacBook Air can work while outside in direct hot sun I'm not optimistic. An unused iPhone 7 will go into an overheating error state if left in direct sunlight on a British summer's day. I don't know how newer models cope.
- markphip 6y agoThe Daring Fireball review of the MBP had this to say about the fan ... "The two machines are equivalently fast in a sprint, but the MacBook Pro will win a distance race. But Apple doesn’t call it a “fan”. They call it an “active cooling system”. That sounds like a marketing euphemism, but it’s not fair to call this a “fan”. It is something else altogether, and nothing at all like the cooling systems in any previous Mac laptop. I’ve never once heard it in an entire week. Never. Not once. Not a whisper. I presume it has engaged at times when I’ve taxed the system. Again, the Cinebench multi-core CPU benchmark taxes every available CPU core for 10 minutes. But if the active cooling system has kicked in, I never heard it. I’ve never felt any air moving out of the vents, either. This is nothing at all like the fans on Intel-based MacBooks, which, if you’re not familiar, you can definitely hear, to say the least." https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs https://daringfireball.net/2020/11/the_m1_macs
- drewolbrich 6y agoIf your MBP fans are running all the time, you may want to open it up and see if it's filled with dust and lint.
- mixmastamyk 6y agoThe process table as well.
- cjrp 6y agoOh I have, thanks. It's just that running my dev. environment plus Teams and all of the other "necessary" accoutrements ends up using a fair chunk of CPU.