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rsync.net is expensive because they are more of a "cold-storage be-all and end-all" data sink. Their backend is AWS, and so the cost reflects that. I might be w

rsync.net is expensive because they are more of a "cold-storage be-all and end-all" data sink. Their backend is AWS, and so the cost reflects that. I might be wrong on this, but I think they use Glacier. Here, we are pretty much providing a datacenter hookup for your hard-drive. If that hard-drive fails, we can ship it to you for recovery, but that's on you. The idea for this site is that most people with ZFS pools already have a mirror/RAIDZ setup at home, and would enjoy the peace of mind if they had one-extra data-sink to send their snapshots. Therefore, true data-loss will occur if: * Their house burns down * AND the remote zfs.rent hard drive fails ...all at the same time. --- Personally, I live about 20 minutes aways from my parents' house. I have two separate ZPools (one for my place, one for theirs). I sync the two every time I visit. I wanted an extra cloud machine to sync to once a week or so -- you know, in case Northern California fires really get out-of-hand :/ --- EDIT: I went to rsync.net just to double-check. It looks like they are running their own infrastructure now. https://www.rsync.net/products/locations.html https://www.rsync.net/products/locations.html Maybe my memory is going haywire, but I swear I remembered reading that they used AWS as their backend.

baaym 6y ago
Perhaps you're confusing rsync.net with tarsnap? When I compared services for my personal off-site backup I came across Tarsnap and their AWS-based infra as well. I ended up using rsync.net with borgbackup.
- radious_co 6y ago
  Yuppp, I mangled tarsnap and rsync.net in my head
antihero 6y ago
Am I right in say this would be ideal to host someting like Subsonic/Navidrome on?
rsync 6y ago
"Their backend is AWS, and so the cost reflects that." A few things ... I love your website and domain name, etc. I wish more people operated like this. I want very much not to mention, or have anyone else discuss, (other competitors) because this is your HN frontpage day. ... so I will just quickly clarify: rsync.net (which predates AWS) has always run on our own hardware that we assemble ourselves. Also, we have no cold storage option or functions - we only provide live, online, random access storage. ... and now let's return to zfs.rent and their day in the sun :)
- radious_co 6y ago
  Ooh I'm starstruck - Yeah, I confused rsync.net with tarsnap oof my bad haha. My apologies
  - kencausey 6y ago
    Thanks for acknowledging your mistake. I also have a tendency to conflate rsync.net and tarsnap as I believe I learned about them at about the same time. This is despite having 2 clients to whom I have recommended rsync.net and whose backup I check each and every day.
  - abtinf 6y ago
    You might not fully appreciate how graciously rsync handled this: they could have trivially won a lawsuit against you. Had you made this kind of mistake about another company’s offering, and they discovered it, you might expect to hear from lawyers very quickly. Avoid making comments about competitors unless you are certain it is the truth.
    - jodrellblank 6y ago
      What lawsuit could they trivially win for an internet comment saying "their backend is AWS"?

baaym 6y ago

Perhaps you're confusing rsync.net with tarsnap? When I compared services for my personal off-site backup I came across Tarsnap and their AWS-based infra as well. I ended up using rsync.net with borgbackup.

radious_co 6y ago
Yuppp, I mangled tarsnap and rsync.net in my head

antihero 6y ago

Am I right in say this would be ideal to host someting like Subsonic/Navidrome on?

rsync 6y ago

"Their backend is AWS, and so the cost reflects that." A few things ... I love your website and domain name, etc. I wish more people operated like this. I want very much not to mention, or have anyone else discuss, (other competitors) because this is your HN frontpage day. ... so I will just quickly clarify: rsync.net (which predates AWS) has always run on our own hardware that we assemble ourselves. Also, we have no cold storage option or functions - we only provide live, online, random access storage. ... and now let's return to zfs.rent and their day in the sun :)

radious_co 6y ago
Ooh I'm starstruck - Yeah, I confused rsync.net with tarsnap oof my bad haha. My apologies
- kencausey 6y ago
  Thanks for acknowledging your mistake. I also have a tendency to conflate rsync.net and tarsnap as I believe I learned about them at about the same time. This is despite having 2 clients to whom I have recommended rsync.net and whose backup I check each and every day.
- abtinf 6y ago
  You might not fully appreciate how graciously rsync handled this: they could have trivially won a lawsuit against you. Had you made this kind of mistake about another company’s offering, and they discovered it, you might expect to hear from lawyers very quickly. Avoid making comments about competitors unless you are certain it is the truth.
  - jodrellblank 6y ago
    What lawsuit could they trivially win for an internet comment saying "their backend is AWS"?