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> Let's not forget that Apple moved to ARM Macs not only for increased profit... Apple's profit margins have been pretty consistent for the past 20 years. That

> Let's not forget that Apple moved to ARM Macs not only for increased profit... Apple's profit margins have been pretty consistent for the past 20 years. That isn't going to change now. Though it's likely looking at the performance numbers Apple will make more profit due to increased sales. > but also to exert even more control over Mac desktops Well yes, but "more control" in this case means they can do take the CPU in a direction which suits them. Things like moving RAM, neural engine, and Secure Enclave into the main SOC. > and turn them into ios like spying client terminals where you can't run anything on it not approved by Apple or without their knowledge. Now we're veering into tin-foil hat territory.

webmobdev 6y ago
> Now we're veering into tin-foil hat territory. Sure, keep making fun of people like us. I was downvoted to hell when I pointed that that the changes made to Big Sur was specifically designed to CRIPPLE application firewalls that are also used to block Apple softwares from spying on its users. And that is exactly what has happened - application firewalls on Big Sur can no longer effectively block Apple services from connecting to the internet and sending consumer data to Apple. The noose is tightening ever so slowly as we customers are deprived of our rights ... the frog is being slowly boiled while also being given Kool-aid to make them think everything's fine. /s
- ogre_codes 6y ago
  > Sure, keep making fun of people like us. Was not trying to make fun of you. Your comment (and this one too) was speculative and made a lot of assumptions about motives you can't know.
  - superkuh 6y ago
    Knowing the future is hard. Knowing how Apple has behaved in the past and how they are behaving currently and extrapolating is much easier. All indications are that apple is doing this to re-lockdown their market.
    - ogre_codes 6y ago
      > All indications are that apple is doing this to re-lockdown their market. Apple releases are like a Rorschach check for developers. People see what they want to see in them. If you don't like/ don't trust Apple, every announcement is them creeping ever towards locking down everything. I've been hearing this for the past 6+ years. But here with the M1, they have the perfect opportunity to lock down the system. But they've left the opportunity for people to build and install whatever they want. They've even said explicitly that if Microsoft wanted to build Windows for the Mac they wanted to. We can still access a full shell, install home-brew and they've demoed Linux & Docker running on the M1. We can still install software from outside the App Store.

webmobdev 6y ago

> Now we're veering into tin-foil hat territory. Sure, keep making fun of people like us. I was downvoted to hell when I pointed that that the changes made to Big Sur was specifically designed to CRIPPLE application firewalls that are also used to block Apple softwares from spying on its users. And that is exactly what has happened - application firewalls on Big Sur can no longer effectively block Apple services from connecting to the internet and sending consumer data to Apple. The noose is tightening ever so slowly as we customers are deprived of our rights ... the frog is being slowly boiled while also being given Kool-aid to make them think everything's fine. /s

ogre_codes 6y ago
> Sure, keep making fun of people like us. Was not trying to make fun of you. Your comment (and this one too) was speculative and made a lot of assumptions about motives you can't know.
- superkuh 6y ago
  Knowing the future is hard. Knowing how Apple has behaved in the past and how they are behaving currently and extrapolating is much easier. All indications are that apple is doing this to re-lockdown their market.
  - ogre_codes 6y ago
    > All indications are that apple is doing this to re-lockdown their market. Apple releases are like a Rorschach check for developers. People see what they want to see in them. If you don't like/ don't trust Apple, every announcement is them creeping ever towards locking down everything. I've been hearing this for the past 6+ years. But here with the M1, they have the perfect opportunity to lock down the system. But they've left the opportunity for people to build and install whatever they want. They've even said explicitly that if Microsoft wanted to build Windows for the Mac they wanted to. We can still access a full shell, install home-brew and they've demoed Linux & Docker running on the M1. We can still install software from outside the App Store.