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Currently the iPhone is a great device for almost everyone on the planet and the trust their users have in the 3rd party apps is a big part of that. If Apple m

Currently the iPhone is a great device for almost everyone on the planet and the trust their users have in the 3rd party apps is a big part of that. If Apple made it easy to put custom apps on the device it would mean you could more easily be tricked into installing malware and so reduce the trust in the security. The iPhone is as popular as it is today due in no small part to how they have policed the App Store.

jimmaswell 6y ago
Android has over 70% market share.
- jonwinstanley 6y ago
  What did you mean by this one?
- jolux 6y ago
  And significantly more malware than iOS has.
  - jimmaswell 6y ago
    Malware can't do all that much but drain your battery with Android's sandboxing unless you're rooted.
    - Razengan 6y ago
      > unless you're rooted. There we go :)
      - echelon 6y ago
        You can run custom / 3rd party software without being rooted. Not that rooting should be impossible.
    - jolux 6y ago
      I thought there was a significant adware problem, rooted or not?
      - jimmaswell 6y ago
        You can easily find the app responsible for any push notification and uninstall it. Not sure about other avenues.
- lavp 6y ago
  According to [1], Android makes up 60% of the US smartphone market share; but you're comparing many different brands of phones, all of which use Android, to the iPhone which isn't exactly fair. You can see that the iPhone is still has the largest smartphone market share in the US. Also, bear in mind that Android phones thrive in less rich countries like Mexico [2] or the Philippines [3]. The price of the iPhone is perhaps the largest burden for these people, but I'm willing to speculate that if given the choice, most would favor iOS over Android. [1]: https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-market-smartphone-share/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-market-smartphone-sh... [2]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/867948/market-share-smartphone-brands-monthly-mexico/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/867948/market-share-smar... [3]: https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/philippines https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/philip...
  - anshumankmr 6y ago
    Well, I'm from India and I still prefer Android to an iPhone. It is lightyears ahead in customization, which I prefer the most.
    - valparaiso 6y ago
      In real world only small percentage of people need customizations. Like when I was 16 I loved the Symbian OS. But now I'm 30 and I just want to use device which works without issues. That's why nearly whole Silicon Valley is using iPhones. Even at Google.
vishnugupta 6y ago
A big reason for me to switch to Android was this. I'm reasonably tech savvy, but still it was becoming painful to manage all sorts of app permissions on Android. Not to talk about all kinds of tracking that Google does by default some of which may even be impossible to turn off. Between me and Apple I'm reasonably clear about the business transaction. I pay to buy a high margin device. In turn Apple assures me that they have a vested interest to do what's best for me (i.e., my privacy, no trackers allowed etc.,). With Android we have bewildering choice of hardware/forked-Android and what not which come with pre-burned apps and app stores that one can't get rid of. Google Pixel comes closest to iPhone but at that price point I might as well buy iPhone as Apple has better track record of respecting user's privacy.

jimmaswell 6y ago

Android has over 70% market share.

jonwinstanley 6y ago
What did you mean by this one?
jolux 6y ago
And significantly more malware than iOS has.
- jimmaswell 6y ago
  Malware can't do all that much but drain your battery with Android's sandboxing unless you're rooted.
  - Razengan 6y ago
    > unless you're rooted. There we go :)
    - echelon 6y ago
      You can run custom / 3rd party software without being rooted. Not that rooting should be impossible.
  - jolux 6y ago
    I thought there was a significant adware problem, rooted or not?
    - jimmaswell 6y ago
      You can easily find the app responsible for any push notification and uninstall it. Not sure about other avenues.
lavp 6y ago
According to [1], Android makes up 60% of the US smartphone market share; but you're comparing many different brands of phones, all of which use Android, to the iPhone which isn't exactly fair. You can see that the iPhone is still has the largest smartphone market share in the US. Also, bear in mind that Android phones thrive in less rich countries like Mexico [2] or the Philippines [3]. The price of the iPhone is perhaps the largest burden for these people, but I'm willing to speculate that if given the choice, most would favor iOS over Android. [1]: https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-market-smartphone-share/ https://www.counterpointresearch.com/us-market-smartphone-sh... [2]: https://www.statista.com/statistics/867948/market-share-smartphone-brands-monthly-mexico/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/867948/market-share-smar... [3]: https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/philippines https://gs.statcounter.com/vendor-market-share/mobile/philip...
- anshumankmr 6y ago
  Well, I'm from India and I still prefer Android to an iPhone. It is lightyears ahead in customization, which I prefer the most.
  - valparaiso 6y ago
    In real world only small percentage of people need customizations. Like when I was 16 I loved the Symbian OS. But now I'm 30 and I just want to use device which works without issues. That's why nearly whole Silicon Valley is using iPhones. Even at Google.

vishnugupta 6y ago

A big reason for me to switch to Android was this. I'm reasonably tech savvy, but still it was becoming painful to manage all sorts of app permissions on Android. Not to talk about all kinds of tracking that Google does by default some of which may even be impossible to turn off. Between me and Apple I'm reasonably clear about the business transaction. I pay to buy a high margin device. In turn Apple assures me that they have a vested interest to do what's best for me (i.e., my privacy, no trackers allowed etc.,). With Android we have bewildering choice of hardware/forked-Android and what not which come with pre-burned apps and app stores that one can't get rid of. Google Pixel comes closest to iPhone but at that price point I might as well buy iPhone as Apple has better track record of respecting user's privacy.