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Nor am I saying it is, I'm telling you why switching is not an option for me which is what the parent comment asked. I'm slowly reducing my reliance on Apple a

by zeusk 6y ago

Nor am I saying it is, I'm telling you why switching is not an option for me which is what the parent comment asked. I'm slowly reducing my reliance on Apple and have already abstained from getting the new watch or adding homepod minis to my current apple tv and homepod setup. And hopefully, as these devices weather out I will definitely make it a priority to not buy into a closed system like this again.

zepto 6y ago
This seems wise. I made the same move away from Google about 5 years ago. It took me a year or so, mostly because it took a while to unthread Gmail from everything. That we can do this means we do in fact have a choice.
- zeusk 6y ago
  Yes, but that choice is getting harder with time. What happens when home automation and car automation is also controlled by these tech giants? What if some day your account was banned because you said something against the "community guidelines" of Apple? Will your car, phone, TV still work? Will Apple buy them back?
  - zepto 6y ago
    “What if some day your account was banned because you said something against the "community guidelines" of Apple?“ That is a fictional what if. More importantly, it would be a field day for lawyers.
    - zeusk 6y ago
      That's already happening with facebook (oculus) and google as well (what happens to your android device? what about the photos you had stored on the cloud? what about all the sign-in with google?) Don't see any lawyer field day yet.
      - zepto 6y ago
        Oculus is an extremely niche product, barely out of the experimental stage. Can you point to cases where people have been locked out of their Android phones? If so, I’m surprised lawyers aren’t involved. It’s not clear though, what this has to do with app stores. If we think companies shouldn’t be able to lock us out of their products for speech violations, that seems like an important consumer protection that should apply to all companies.
  - wil421 6y ago
    Homebridge will allow you to add almost any device to Apple Home. If they don’t have a plug-in you can build one yourself.

by zeusk 6y ago

zepto 6y ago

This seems wise. I made the same move away from Google about 5 years ago. It took me a year or so, mostly because it took a while to unthread Gmail from everything. That we can do this means we do in fact have a choice.

zeusk 6y ago
Yes, but that choice is getting harder with time. What happens when home automation and car automation is also controlled by these tech giants? What if some day your account was banned because you said something against the "community guidelines" of Apple? Will your car, phone, TV still work? Will Apple buy them back?
- zepto 6y ago
  “What if some day your account was banned because you said something against the "community guidelines" of Apple?“ That is a fictional what if. More importantly, it would be a field day for lawyers.
  - zeusk 6y ago
    That's already happening with facebook (oculus) and google as well (what happens to your android device? what about the photos you had stored on the cloud? what about all the sign-in with google?) Don't see any lawyer field day yet.
    - zepto 6y ago
      Oculus is an extremely niche product, barely out of the experimental stage. Can you point to cases where people have been locked out of their Android phones? If so, I’m surprised lawyers aren’t involved. It’s not clear though, what this has to do with app stores. If we think companies shouldn’t be able to lock us out of their products for speech violations, that seems like an important consumer protection that should apply to all companies.
- wil421 6y ago
  Homebridge will allow you to add almost any device to Apple Home. If they don’t have a plug-in you can build one yourself.