> There's a difference between being productive and whining. The worst work environments always have people complaining about the same stuff, sometimes for year

> There's a difference between being productive and whining. The worst work environments always have people complaining about the same stuff, sometimes for years. But what makes you think that if they stopped opening their mouths about it, they'd suddenly stop being the kind of mediocre person who never does anything to address the issues they constantly run into? I think you're mistaking correlation for causation. It's perfectly possible to complain and fix things. The real advice you'd like people to follow is "Don't be Mediocre"