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You can do whatever you want with your phone, that doesn't mean Apple has to support it.
by ntsplnkv2 6y ago
You can do whatever you want with your phone, that doesn't mean Apple has to support it.
- mason55 6y agoThis is the right answer. Apple’s not going to arrest you for jailbreaking your phone and running your own software. But they’re not obligated to go out of their way to support it either.
- upbeat_general 6y agoIt’s not that they don’t go out of their way to support it. They actively try to stop it. All jailbreaking is, is gaining root privileges on the device. They could just add a little toggle button saying use at your own risk, we don’t support it. By making it so hard to jailbreak and so hard to install apps not from the App Store, they make jailbreaking not the answer.
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoYes, let's add a potentially system breaking switch to a consumer phone. Believe it or not, the world doesn't revolve around the software geeks.
- helloycombinat 6y agonvm I was wrong, it's not that you didn't get it, you're just an idiot
- mason55 6y agoTheir goal/feature/product, whatever you want to call it, is to create something secure enough that grandpa can’t get tricked into getting owned. Anything at all that allows people to disable security becomes an immediate threat for that type of user. If the side effect is that they prevent people from jailbreaking then so be it because they have no desire or obligation to support those users.
- grishka 6y agoYeah sure, let's just blast that silicon with some focused ion beam to overwrite the public key that the bootloader is signed with. It's that simple, right? Everyone could do it.
- ntsplnkv2 6y agoJust take a step back and think about how absurd what you just said was. After market mods aren't easy to do in any industry. We don't force Ford to support lifted F150s or aftermarket radios. You're basically saying "This is a dog, and I'm mad its not a cat and it can't be easily changed." When you can just get, you know, a cat.
- helloycombinat 6y agoYou clearly missed his point
- grishka 6y agoWhere do you get a mobile device that's not a walled garden? It's just that Google's is designed with a gate slightly ajar. Continuing with your pet analogy, it's as if you could only get a dog or a cat, and it only eats food made by one specific manufacturer. You can convince the cat to eat almost whatever you have, but the dog won't budge. Want a parrot or a hamster? Tough luck. I wholeheartedly agree with the OP article. You made a device, then you sold it. You shouldn't get to control it after sale because you no longer own it. Plain and simple. I don't care about manufacturer "supporting" something. I bought it, it's mine now, I'm on my own, and please don't get in my way of modifying the thing I bought because I have the right to do so.
- curiousgal 6y agoPixel phones come with an unlockable bootloader so...
- grishka 6y agoThat's what I refer to when I say about "gate slightly ajar". The thing is, you only unlock the bootloader that boots the main OS kernel, on EL1. There are more higher-privileged exception levels in an ARM CPU, and Google makes use of those to implement anti-consumer features like the dreaded SafetyNet or DRM. Your main OS is considered "untrusted", and you never get to run any custom code with highest possible privileges, a.k.a TrustZone — only Google and phone manufacturer do. Magisk is a dirty hack which will stop working whenever Google feels like flipping the switch to make use of their TrustZone firmware.