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If you think that's the case, you don't know your history. It's exactly the tactic of Mussolini. Edit: And when he did it, most of the western world/press fawn
by busterarm 6y ago
If you think that's the case, you don't know your history. It's exactly the tactic of Mussolini.
Edit: And when he did it, most of the western world/press fawned on him and praised him as a genius until he went and allied himself with Hitler.
- ketzo 6y agoI mean, since this is an argument about semantics > a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader is the definition of fascism. This is a tool often deployed by fascists.
- busterarm 6y agoAnd saying that something is "the (very) definition of" something is a colloquialism drawing comparison that dates back at least to James Madison and the Federalist Papers. No. 47, if you'd like to read it.
- eloff 6y agoThat's still not how you use the word "literally". It is a technique used by fascist regimes, communist regimes, dictatorships (basically totalitarian regimes of all stripes.) It is a separate concept from fascism. EDIT downvoters seem to have weak English skills...
- hn_throwaway_99 6y agoRegardless of whether or not that was a tactic of Mussolini, that is most definitely not the definition of fascism.
- busterarm 6y agoYou can wait to wake up to a totalitarian government biting you on the nose, but some of us remember that Mussolini was a journalist and rose to power in the media and don't want to let it get that far.
- JoshuaDavid 6y agoFascism has a specific definition that is not just "whatever Mussolini did".
- busterarm 6y agoConsidering that the term itself comes from his movement, the "Fasces of Revolutionary Action", and that he coined the word fascism personally in 1919 (after the word "fascio"), I think at the very least he gets to be attributed the lions' share of it.
- JoshuaDavid 6y agoNewton can be credited as being substantially the inventor of Newtonian Physics. That doesn't make alchemy a sub-field of Newtonian Physics, despite the fact that Newton wrote numerous treatises on alchemy.
- busterarm 6y agoOr possibly that alchemy has nothing to do with motion and gravitation. Chemistry isn't a sub-field of Physics either.
- JoshuaDavid 6y agoExactly.
- busterarm 6y agoNo, we don't agree. He literally coined the term when talking about his movement. If anyone has claim to what the definition was, it's him. But history is written by the winners and I'm sure modern day fascists would like to distance themselves from that history as much as possible...and thus the term gets narrowed and redefined.
- nobody9999 6y ago>Chemistry isn't a sub-field of Physics either. Chemistry is just applied Physics. And yes, for all you mathematicians out there, Physics is just applied math. :)
- Koshkin 6y agoTo be fair, Hitler himself was not universally recognized as a "bad guy" until, well, later.
- dragonwriter 6y agoTo be depressingly fair, Hitler was never (and is still not) universally recognized as a "bad guy".