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I agree with you - when a book is down, a TV is off or a console is off, it doesn't ping you and light up to gain your attention. Sure, as kids we watched a lo

by giarc 6y ago

I agree with you - when a book is down, a TV is off or a console is off, it doesn't ping you and light up to gain your attention. Sure, as kids we watched a lot of TV, but when it was time to turn it off we didn't get a sound to tell us someone "Liked" your photo. As you said, these aren't bi-directional. I think the hardest thing for this parent was balancing what was right for their child (and they seemed to be confident in their opinion) and what would hold them back socially at school. It's hard to say no to a child that says "Everyone else has an iPhone" because we all remember being that kid left out from something when we were young.

throwaway201103 6y ago
IDK. I mean you're right, of course, but I remember getting engrossed in books to the point where I lost sleep, or delayed doing other important things because I either could not put it down or I was drawn back to it. This happened as a teen and as a young adult, not so much lately but I really don't read books nearly as much as I used to.
- Xavdidtheshadow 6y ago
  I was also an avid reader growing up and spent many nights under the covers with a flashlight. I think the big difference is the adaptivity of the phone. Books don't figure out what personally engrosses you and tweak the rest of the book so you can't put it down. That feels too powerful IMO.
  - jdbernard 6y ago
    Also, at some point you finish the story. There's a natural stopping point and conclusion that makes it easier to out the book down and spend time doing something else before picking up the next one. Contrast that with so many apps whose main feed uses some sort of infinite scroll.
hidden-spyder 6y ago
> when a book is down, a TV is off or a console is off, it doesn't ping you and light up to gain your attention. There's DND (Do Not Disturb) mode for this. It's just a button click away on all phones.

by giarc 6y ago

throwaway201103 6y ago

IDK. I mean you're right, of course, but I remember getting engrossed in books to the point where I lost sleep, or delayed doing other important things because I either could not put it down or I was drawn back to it. This happened as a teen and as a young adult, not so much lately but I really don't read books nearly as much as I used to.

Xavdidtheshadow 6y ago
I was also an avid reader growing up and spent many nights under the covers with a flashlight. I think the big difference is the adaptivity of the phone. Books don't figure out what personally engrosses you and tweak the rest of the book so you can't put it down. That feels too powerful IMO.
- jdbernard 6y ago
  Also, at some point you finish the story. There's a natural stopping point and conclusion that makes it easier to out the book down and spend time doing something else before picking up the next one. Contrast that with so many apps whose main feed uses some sort of infinite scroll.

hidden-spyder 6y ago

> when a book is down, a TV is off or a console is off, it doesn't ping you and light up to gain your attention. There's DND (Do Not Disturb) mode for this. It's just a button click away on all phones.