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Changing a default isn't banning a word. The conference was called NIPS. It's slang for nipples and a racial slur. It isn't like everyone was mature about it.

Changing a default isn't banning a word. The conference was called NIPS. It's slang for nipples and a racial slur. It isn't like everyone was mature about it. There was an unofficial event called TITS. People wore shirts proclaiming "my NIPS are NP hard". Funny but hardly professional.

tachyonbeam 6y ago
> Changing a default isn't banning a word. Yes it is. This change is effectively reflecting a push, by bullies, to ban the word master, to eliminate it from spoken and written language, that's exactly what's happening.
- eyelidlessness 6y ago
  No, it’s not. By changing the default, the majority of people will likely use “main” for new projects because there’s not much incentive to override it besides the attitude you’ve expressed here (and most people are probably not motivated by that attitude), but you’re still free to have that attitude, to use the word, and to override the default trivially. Language evolves. One of the ways it evolves is that certain expressions become understood as hurtful or impolite... and people with empathy learn to use other expressions in their stead out of respect. That’s not “banning” those expressions, it’s choosing to adapt for the benefit of a broader subset of society. A great deal of social expectations are the consequence of this kind of process of empathy and adaptation, and they make living on the planet with other people more joyful and safer. Sometimes in small ways, other times in big ways. But you don’t have to meet those expectations if you value the symbolic freedom of using language that’s gone out of vogue for these reasons... you just have to accept that people may view you as inconsiderate as a consequence.
- nicbou 6y ago
  What bullying was done?
  - josefx 6y ago
    I it was anything like the SQLite push to adopt a CoC for a private project then at least some organized harassment on social media and the very real threat to cut various forms funding.
    - nicbou 6y ago
      If.
gnusty_gnurc 6y ago
Isn’t the obsession with professionalism a hallmark of “anti-Blackness”? /s I say this in jest but only because it’s incredibly easy to reproduce the absurdity of all this discussion, it’s all discordant and trivial
- pseudalopex 6y ago
  Some people do discriminatory things and call it professionalism. Like arbitrarily banning traditional hair styles. I've never heard anyone say avoiding sexual innuendo is anti black. Have you?

tachyonbeam 6y ago

> Changing a default isn't banning a word. Yes it is. This change is effectively reflecting a push, by bullies, to ban the word master, to eliminate it from spoken and written language, that's exactly what's happening.

eyelidlessness 6y ago
No, it’s not. By changing the default, the majority of people will likely use “main” for new projects because there’s not much incentive to override it besides the attitude you’ve expressed here (and most people are probably not motivated by that attitude), but you’re still free to have that attitude, to use the word, and to override the default trivially. Language evolves. One of the ways it evolves is that certain expressions become understood as hurtful or impolite... and people with empathy learn to use other expressions in their stead out of respect. That’s not “banning” those expressions, it’s choosing to adapt for the benefit of a broader subset of society. A great deal of social expectations are the consequence of this kind of process of empathy and adaptation, and they make living on the planet with other people more joyful and safer. Sometimes in small ways, other times in big ways. But you don’t have to meet those expectations if you value the symbolic freedom of using language that’s gone out of vogue for these reasons... you just have to accept that people may view you as inconsiderate as a consequence.
nicbou 6y ago
What bullying was done?
- josefx 6y ago
  I it was anything like the SQLite push to adopt a CoC for a private project then at least some organized harassment on social media and the very real threat to cut various forms funding.
  - nicbou 6y ago
    If.

gnusty_gnurc 6y ago

Isn’t the obsession with professionalism a hallmark of “anti-Blackness”? /s I say this in jest but only because it’s incredibly easy to reproduce the absurdity of all this discussion, it’s all discordant and trivial

pseudalopex 6y ago
Some people do discriminatory things and call it professionalism. Like arbitrarily banning traditional hair styles. I've never heard anyone say avoiding sexual innuendo is anti black. Have you?