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right? maybe Op would care to give examples of software issues that have no social or political ramifications?

by joh6nn 6y ago

denysvitali 6y ago
Pure algorithms, for one. I don't think that Merge Sort for example has had or will ever have any political / social ramification. On the contrary, I see that now the SJW trend is to attack IT in general and make a huge deal out of terms that (given the context) are perfectly fine. I wonder how much it will take before we'll have to assign pronouns to the connetors or to the USB cables
- aaomidi 6y ago
  We already assign pronouns and gender to connectors. Seems like you've not actually worked in IT if you don't know that? Pure algorithms have the capacity to change the world. Sometimes for the worse. An example of a pure algorithm with massive political and ethical considerations is crypto currency algorithms. I think a lot of people here would've benefited taking a basic "ethics in CS" class.
  - denysvitali 6y ago
    I wasn't talking about calling a female connector or a male connector, I was referring to the somewhat new trend of having to specify a pronoun in your Twitter bio because genders are non-binary. > Pure algorithms have the capacity to change the world. Sometimes for the worse. An example of a pure algorithm with massive political and ethical considerations is crypto currency algorithms. Nobody was arguing that. I just said that we shouldn't integrate politics into software, not the other way around. Obviously the code that we write is going to have an impact, but that's completely different from adding the impact from day 0 (e.g: software that spams propaganda in the stdout)
    - whynaut 6y ago
      > I wasn't talking about calling a female connector or a male connector, then you’re gonna need to explain, because that’s pretty much exactly what you said. > Obviously the code that we write is going to have an impact, but that's completely different from adding the impact from day 0 (e.g: software that spams propaganda in the stdout) So it would seem you have no issue here.
  - ddvvff 6y ago
    Imagine speaking a non gender neutral language like spanish, how do they live with themselves

right? maybe Op would care to give examples of software issues that have no social or political ramifications?

by joh6nn 6y ago

right? maybe Op would care to give examples of software issues that have no social or political ramifications?

Pure algorithms, for one. I don't think that Merge Sort for example has had or will ever have any political / social ramification. On the contrary, I see that now the SJW trend is to attack IT in general and make a huge deal out of terms that (given the context) are perfectly fine. I wonder how much it will take before we'll have to assign pronouns to the connetors or to the USB cables

aaomidi 6y ago
We already assign pronouns and gender to connectors. Seems like you've not actually worked in IT if you don't know that? Pure algorithms have the capacity to change the world. Sometimes for the worse. An example of a pure algorithm with massive political and ethical considerations is crypto currency algorithms. I think a lot of people here would've benefited taking a basic "ethics in CS" class.
- denysvitali 6y ago
  I wasn't talking about calling a female connector or a male connector, I was referring to the somewhat new trend of having to specify a pronoun in your Twitter bio because genders are non-binary. > Pure algorithms have the capacity to change the world. Sometimes for the worse. An example of a pure algorithm with massive political and ethical considerations is crypto currency algorithms. Nobody was arguing that. I just said that we shouldn't integrate politics into software, not the other way around. Obviously the code that we write is going to have an impact, but that's completely different from adding the impact from day 0 (e.g: software that spams propaganda in the stdout)
  - whynaut 6y ago
    > I wasn't talking about calling a female connector or a male connector, then you’re gonna need to explain, because that’s pretty much exactly what you said. > Obviously the code that we write is going to have an impact, but that's completely different from adding the impact from day 0 (e.g: software that spams propaganda in the stdout) So it would seem you have no issue here.
- ddvvff 6y ago
  Imagine speaking a non gender neutral language like spanish, how do they live with themselves