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Is that website hosted on that Mac Mini? It's slow as hell :-)

by nix23 6y ago

_ph_ 6y ago
If it were hosted on a M1 Mini, it would be much faster :)
- nix23 6y ago
  Haha yeah that's true. BUT still no 10GbE :-) Man...HN really has zero Humor...it's like talking with a bunch of Java-Dev's..let's see how much they have this time.
  - codezero 6y ago
    You're mostly right, but you can get away with a lot of humor if it's not quite so low effort, but fwiw, your joke would have been better if you pointed out the 10gbe deficiency - I didn't realize that was a thing, but I also think it's pretty clear at this point that all these models are meant for lower end consumers, so the top-of-the-line needs are absolutely not in this round, and we're all well aware of that at this point.
    - nix23 6y ago
      >your joke would have been better if you pointed out the 10gbe deficiency I think it's more funny that when you make a joke about apple, the apple fanboys act more like the guy in the famous 1984 TV-advertisement, really grumpy truffles ;)
      - czzr 6y ago
        Maybe, but downvoting low effort jokes is common on HN, no special assumptions about apple required.
        nix23 6y ago
        Never seen a joke that got up-voted...especially not about apple even when it's "high effort".
      - codezero 6y ago
        I agree with this, and appreciate your style.
lostgame 6y ago
Probably just getting the HN hug 'o death - just not loading for me atm.
- crazygringo 6y ago
  Honestly, I never understand the HN hug of death. Having had sites of mine get to the top of HN multiple times, it's always been around 4 visits per second. (= 15K/hr, or ~100K total over the course of a story.) Given that things like grabbing something from the database or serving up an image are on the order of a handful of milliseconds... it should be fine. If HN were sending 1,000 visits per second it would be a totally different story. But it's not. The amount of traffic just isn't that much.
  - bluedays 6y ago
    Maybe you content wasn't that interesting, and people only cared about the headline.
  - wbl 6y ago
    The C10K website was nearly 20 years ago.
  - totalZero 6y ago
    If this site is at the top of HN then it may be at the top of other aggregators. If you have slow internet or a very asymmetrical link, and the site is heavy (lots of pictures or other BS), then does the server just refuse new connections when it saturates the link? I'm not sure what the behavior is.
  - londons_explore 6y ago
    A badly designed site can use a second or so of CPU time per user request (eg. scanning through the entire database because someone didn't put an index on something). That won't be noticeable till you have 4 users per second hitting it...
  - wkrause 6y ago
    Yeah and those numbers seem in line with what others have reported in HN meta threads on the topic, and at least an n of 1 personal experience. I totally get it when it’s a game or some other server intensive thing. Guess caching is an afterthought for a lot of smaller sites.

Is that website hosted on that Mac Mini? It's slow as hell :-)

by nix23 6y ago

Is that website hosted on that Mac Mini? It's slow as hell :-)

_ph_ 6y ago

If it were hosted on a M1 Mini, it would be much faster :)

nix23 6y ago
Haha yeah that's true. BUT still no 10GbE :-) Man...HN really has zero Humor...it's like talking with a bunch of Java-Dev's..let's see how much they have this time.
- codezero 6y ago
  You're mostly right, but you can get away with a lot of humor if it's not quite so low effort, but fwiw, your joke would have been better if you pointed out the 10gbe deficiency - I didn't realize that was a thing, but I also think it's pretty clear at this point that all these models are meant for lower end consumers, so the top-of-the-line needs are absolutely not in this round, and we're all well aware of that at this point.
  - nix23 6y ago
    >your joke would have been better if you pointed out the 10gbe deficiency I think it's more funny that when you make a joke about apple, the apple fanboys act more like the guy in the famous 1984 TV-advertisement, really grumpy truffles ;)
    - czzr 6y ago
      Maybe, but downvoting low effort jokes is common on HN, no special assumptions about apple required.
      - nix23 6y ago
        Never seen a joke that got up-voted...especially not about apple even when it's "high effort".
    - codezero 6y ago
      I agree with this, and appreciate your style.

lostgame 6y ago

Probably just getting the HN hug 'o death - just not loading for me atm.

crazygringo 6y ago
Honestly, I never understand the HN hug of death. Having had sites of mine get to the top of HN multiple times, it's always been around 4 visits per second. (= 15K/hr, or ~100K total over the course of a story.) Given that things like grabbing something from the database or serving up an image are on the order of a handful of milliseconds... it should be fine. If HN were sending 1,000 visits per second it would be a totally different story. But it's not. The amount of traffic just isn't that much.
- bluedays 6y ago
  Maybe you content wasn't that interesting, and people only cared about the headline.
- wbl 6y ago
  The C10K website was nearly 20 years ago.
- totalZero 6y ago
  If this site is at the top of HN then it may be at the top of other aggregators. If you have slow internet or a very asymmetrical link, and the site is heavy (lots of pictures or other BS), then does the server just refuse new connections when it saturates the link? I'm not sure what the behavior is.
- londons_explore 6y ago
  A badly designed site can use a second or so of CPU time per user request (eg. scanning through the entire database because someone didn't put an index on something). That won't be noticeable till you have 4 users per second hitting it...
- wkrause 6y ago
  Yeah and those numbers seem in line with what others have reported in HN meta threads on the topic, and at least an n of 1 personal experience. I totally get it when it’s a game or some other server intensive thing. Guess caching is an afterthought for a lot of smaller sites.