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I think they are underestimating the costs to manage, compile and host this database. Nevermind the programming cost. Having it 'open' like wikipedia is one w

I think they are underestimating the costs to manage, compile and host this database. Nevermind the programming cost. Having it 'open' like wikipedia is one way to skimp on the compiling, but now you've got more managing to do.

wladimir 16y ago
They might or might not be underestimating, but it is an interesting experiment nevertheless with potentially huge impact. It's easy to be a naysayer in advance, but it worked out for Wikipedia.
mrcharles 16y ago
You think it will cost more than $141 million per year? Somehow I doubt that. Number based on data that 4700 institutions use the data from web of science, multiplied by $30000 per year cost.
- rflrob 16y ago
  Probably not, but some number between the two seems reasonable. Depending on what goes into it and how much staff it needs, $1m wouldn't surprise me.
pragmatic 16y ago
Yes, of all things to cancel - the science database? What about the other amenities? http://www.upei.ca/residence/andrew http://www.upei.ca/residence/andrew Pretty swank rooms with cable TV etc. HIGHLIGHTS - each bedroom is fully furnished with a double size captain’s bed, workstation with overhead shelves, desk chair, dresser, lockable night stand, closet with organizer, and 27" cable TV - each bedroom comes with telephone and private voice mail, and wireless internet access - each suite has a private washroom, mini-fridge, microwave, and kitchen sink No wonder there's no money for the science database, kids are spending their money on a luxury hotel room. (warning old man rant ahead) I my day, I _shared_ a single room 10x15 with another person. You learned how to live in tight quarters. Also my student loans were paid for quite easily. Does anyone else think that something is wrong with higher education priorities?
- mrcharles 16y ago
  Only, the students living in those residences have to pay for it. http://www.upei.ca/residence/fees http://www.upei.ca/residence/fees I'm not sure what they consider a term, but if it's 4 months those rooms are over $1000 a month, and if it's a full year at 8 months, those rooms are still over $500 a month.
- sliverstorm 16y ago
  Yes, of all things to cancel - the science database? What about the other amenities? I like science, I like research, I sometimes browse IEEE's database just for kicks. That does not however change - science databases are not an amenity - they are exorbitantly expensive! Not to mention there's something like 4 or 5, all of which you have to subscribe to!
- ianl 16y ago
  Having "swanky" residence rooms (which are paid for by the students and I'm sure they don't loose money on these) is a selling point. In all honesty, as someone who grew up and goes to school in the Maritimes, not many people want to go to what is widely considered a retirement and tourism province for higher education when more compelling options exist like Halifax. So in order for UPEI to compete, they need to offer some other compelling reasons (for instance, they have a highly regarded veterinary program). It is important to remember that these institutions are funded by enrolment.
  - canadiancreed 16y ago
    They also use those rooms for tourists as well in the summer. http://search.tourismpei.com/accommodations/search_operator_details.php?id=1475&sl_link_id=85&l=1 http://search.tourismpei.com/accommodations/search_operator_...
    - ianl 16y ago
      I forgot all about that, I actually stayed in one during a visit a few summers ago. Very nice, and pretty cheap, esp considering the fact your close to downtown Charlottetown.

wladimir 16y ago

They might or might not be underestimating, but it is an interesting experiment nevertheless with potentially huge impact. It's easy to be a naysayer in advance, but it worked out for Wikipedia.

mrcharles 16y ago

You think it will cost more than $141 million per year? Somehow I doubt that. Number based on data that 4700 institutions use the data from web of science, multiplied by $30000 per year cost.

rflrob 16y ago
Probably not, but some number between the two seems reasonable. Depending on what goes into it and how much staff it needs, $1m wouldn't surprise me.

pragmatic 16y ago

Yes, of all things to cancel - the science database? What about the other amenities? http://www.upei.ca/residence/andrew http://www.upei.ca/residence/andrew Pretty swank rooms with cable TV etc. HIGHLIGHTS - each bedroom is fully furnished with a double size captain’s bed, workstation with overhead shelves, desk chair, dresser, lockable night stand, closet with organizer, and 27" cable TV - each bedroom comes with telephone and private voice mail, and wireless internet access - each suite has a private washroom, mini-fridge, microwave, and kitchen sink No wonder there's no money for the science database, kids are spending their money on a luxury hotel room. (warning old man rant ahead) I my day, I _shared_ a single room 10x15 with another person. You learned how to live in tight quarters. Also my student loans were paid for quite easily. Does anyone else think that something is wrong with higher education priorities?

mrcharles 16y ago
Only, the students living in those residences have to pay for it. http://www.upei.ca/residence/fees http://www.upei.ca/residence/fees I'm not sure what they consider a term, but if it's 4 months those rooms are over $1000 a month, and if it's a full year at 8 months, those rooms are still over $500 a month.
sliverstorm 16y ago
Yes, of all things to cancel - the science database? What about the other amenities? I like science, I like research, I sometimes browse IEEE's database just for kicks. That does not however change - science databases are not an amenity - they are exorbitantly expensive! Not to mention there's something like 4 or 5, all of which you have to subscribe to!
ianl 16y ago
Having "swanky" residence rooms (which are paid for by the students and I'm sure they don't loose money on these) is a selling point. In all honesty, as someone who grew up and goes to school in the Maritimes, not many people want to go to what is widely considered a retirement and tourism province for higher education when more compelling options exist like Halifax. So in order for UPEI to compete, they need to offer some other compelling reasons (for instance, they have a highly regarded veterinary program). It is important to remember that these institutions are funded by enrolment.
- canadiancreed 16y ago
  They also use those rooms for tourists as well in the summer. http://search.tourismpei.com/accommodations/search_operator_details.php?id=1475&sl_link_id=85&l=1 http://search.tourismpei.com/accommodations/search_operator_...
  - ianl 16y ago
    I forgot all about that, I actually stayed in one during a visit a few summers ago. Very nice, and pretty cheap, esp considering the fact your close to downtown Charlottetown.