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The kind of ecosystem that Pine are trying to foster tends to produce much, much leaner software though. Of course, at the moment there are simply some apps (li
by black_puppydog 6y ago
The kind of ecosystem that Pine are trying to foster tends to produce much, much leaner software though. Of course, at the moment there are simply some apps (like Telegram IIRC) that are thin wrappers around a web app. But taking f-droid as a reference, compared to the play store, I have great hopes to end up with a less bloated stack.
Cynics would call the apps on f-droid feature poor. But for me, the FOSS apps that I use day to day tend to just do the thing you need them for, no more.
There's no telemetry overhead, they tend to use fewer dependencies, are less likely to be built on heavy frameworks like electron. Of course there's heavy sampling bias involved in this since I specifically select apps that feel snappy and light.
But this has always been true for linux desktop apps, too.
My favourite comparison is the size of pdf viewers. I have never lacked a feature from the Adobe pdf reader. The 400KB binary of evince totally sufficed, and it used much fewer resources at runtime, too.
I really hope that this ecosystem can push the boundaries of what's possible with lower-spec hardware, even if just to hold the mirror to the big platforms.
- ognarb 6y agoThe Telegram desktop application is a QtWidget application.
- black_puppydog 6y agoYes, and from how I understand it, it is also a native app in android/ios. But I just checked on my Mobian install on the pinephone and that app looks a lot like the telegram web app. Which, by the way, is one of the best executions of webapps I've seen to date. Edit: I should clarify, I mean the telegram app that came preinstalled on mobian. There may be others that I'm not aware of. On ubports there were at least two IIRC Edit 2: And going by this GH issue [1] there is in principle no reason to not run the native QT app on the pinephone. Of course, I'm not sure how it would handle the sreen size etc. And it is only for the snaps apparently. Edit 3: disregard edit 2, I'm stupid. Thanks to @linmob for the correction. :) [1]: https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/5759 https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/issues/5759
- linmob 6y agoThat preinstalled app on Mobian is the Telegram Desktop app.
- black_puppydog 6y agoOh wow you're right! I just checked again and indeed it even marked as such right in the menu. The styling is way different from my linux desktop though. I wonder how that is...
- CivBase 6y ago> Cynics would call the apps on f-droid feature poor. Maybe for some apps. NewPipe absolutely destroys the official YouTube app in terms of features. Plus, I'd consider "don't spy on you or shove ads down your throat" to be a couple of very compelling features.