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Some counter points: - You don't need to sink an aircraft carrier to mission kill it. Even one hit to the deck will probably neutralize it's ability to launch/
by evilos 6y ago
Some counter points:
- You don't need to sink an aircraft carrier to mission kill it. Even one hit to the deck will probably neutralize it's ability to launch/recover aircraft.
- Submarines and satellites are/will be enough to locate surface naval fleets.
- Once you've located your target, you can simply overwhelm it's defenses with massive missile barrage. Whether the missiles are ballistic, hypersonic, or traditional sea skimming AShm doesn't matter. The economics are in the attackers favor. Defenders must target each incoming with multiple anti missiles, and can only carry so many. The enemy will simply win by sheer numbers as they have no practical carrying capacity.
It seems pretty clear that carriers would need to be far, far away from any near peer adversary in a shooting war. At least until enemy subs and satellites are out of the picture. Even then you risk ballistic missile attack from the Chinese interior if your location is somehow discovered.
- ww520 6y agoThe slower under water submarines would have a hard time searching for moving surface ships in a radius of couple hundred miles. Satellites are very good at focusing at narrow strips of area. Searching over a wide angle of field of vision still is a hard problem. You have to get close to the CBG to start the overwhelming campaign. The delivery platforms are likely to be destroyed long before they get close enough. The CBG itself has a massive arsenal. It can deliver its own overwhelming firing. Besides carrying planes the carrier is a huge missile firing platform.
- evilos 6y ago> You have to get close to the CBG to start the overwhelming campaign. The delivery platforms are likely to be destroyed long before they get close enough. Not anymore, see ballistic anti ship missiles (range ~ 1800 miles), long range bombers equipped with long range missiles, and long range hypersonic missiles likely spotted on their long range bombers: https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37662/chinese-long-range-ballistic-missiles-struck-moving-ship-in-south-china-sea-report https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37662/chinese-long-ran... https://twitter.com/tshugart3/status/991832711013728256/photo/1 https://twitter.com/tshugart3/status/991832711013728256/phot... https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37465/new-images-of-chinese-bomber-carrying-huge-mystery-missile-point-to-hypersonic-capability https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/37465/new-images-of-ch... > The CBG itself has a massive arsenal. It can deliver its own overwhelming firing. Besides carrying planes the carrier is a huge missile firing platform. You can fit more missiles on the continent than you can on ships. That's really the end of the argument.