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Perhaps we should stop letting individuals appropriate public space for storage of their private property, and charge market rate for the land used by parking,

Perhaps we should stop letting individuals appropriate public space for storage of their private property, and charge market rate for the land used by parking, thereby encouraging people who are not car dependent to buy houses such as yours instead of demanding a public handout for vehicle storage? (The High Cost Of Free Parking explores this issue in depth)

physicsguy 6y ago
I mean, I agree to some extent, but there's also no public transport service to the place I'm buying a house other than a single bus that runs twice a day for taking kids to school.
- matsemann 6y ago
  Then that would either create pressure to have more public transport, or affect the prices on the homes as people would prefer to live accessible. Changes don't happen in a vacuum, they bring other changes with them.
- pjc50 6y ago
  No public transport and not enough space to have off-street parking is a pretty terrible combination.
- CalRobert 6y ago
  If there's no car storage and it's impossible to live without a car it might be better as grazing land, meadow, or similar.
johnday 6y ago
What about houses which are not within walking distance of amenities, and do not have room for off-street parking? That's a large proportion of suburban (or even urban) housing in the UK.
- adrianN 6y ago
  Time to build some amenities and public transport. Suburban dead zones where you can't do anything without a car are terrible anyway. What about old people who can't drive anymore but can't afford to move? Or children?
- CalRobert 6y ago
  Buy or rent a place to store your property, or sell the stuff you can't store on your land? I've been talking about getting a piano but my wife has reminded me we'll need to extend the house first, sadly.
Hamuko 6y ago
>Perhaps we should stop letting individuals appropriate public space for storage of their private property Are you arguing for getting rid of apartments?
- economusty 6y ago
  They are proposing to charge for parking spaces, like installing meters.
- CalRobert 6y ago
  Not at all! I just think yop've no more right to store your car on the public street than you do a hot tub, piano, etc.
  - tankenmate 6y ago
    There are about 7 million houses in England without some form of off street housing. Changing that will take far more work that wiring up ~2M lamp posts. Also, to ban all parking on public roads is also infeasible aside from the houses with parking issues. Most city centre businesses would vehemently oppose such a move without replacement parking which would cost far far more money from the public purse. So although I'm quite happy for people to have opinions, the consequences of enacting this opinion would be a greater waste of public resources than just allowing people to park on the side of the road (in most cases).
  - tim333 6y ago
    Well in practice you have a right usually to park your car on the street but not your hot tub because that's how things were designed and worked for decades and it's not going to change in a hurry. The public streets are controlled via the government by the public and they are mostly ok with it.
KaiserPro 6y ago
i mean thats what "road tax" is for....

physicsguy 6y ago

I mean, I agree to some extent, but there's also no public transport service to the place I'm buying a house other than a single bus that runs twice a day for taking kids to school.

matsemann 6y ago
Then that would either create pressure to have more public transport, or affect the prices on the homes as people would prefer to live accessible. Changes don't happen in a vacuum, they bring other changes with them.
pjc50 6y ago
No public transport and not enough space to have off-street parking is a pretty terrible combination.
CalRobert 6y ago
If there's no car storage and it's impossible to live without a car it might be better as grazing land, meadow, or similar.

johnday 6y ago

What about houses which are not within walking distance of amenities, and do not have room for off-street parking? That's a large proportion of suburban (or even urban) housing in the UK.

adrianN 6y ago
Time to build some amenities and public transport. Suburban dead zones where you can't do anything without a car are terrible anyway. What about old people who can't drive anymore but can't afford to move? Or children?
CalRobert 6y ago
Buy or rent a place to store your property, or sell the stuff you can't store on your land? I've been talking about getting a piano but my wife has reminded me we'll need to extend the house first, sadly.

Hamuko 6y ago

>Perhaps we should stop letting individuals appropriate public space for storage of their private property Are you arguing for getting rid of apartments?

economusty 6y ago
They are proposing to charge for parking spaces, like installing meters.
CalRobert 6y ago
Not at all! I just think yop've no more right to store your car on the public street than you do a hot tub, piano, etc.
- tankenmate 6y ago
  There are about 7 million houses in England without some form of off street housing. Changing that will take far more work that wiring up ~2M lamp posts. Also, to ban all parking on public roads is also infeasible aside from the houses with parking issues. Most city centre businesses would vehemently oppose such a move without replacement parking which would cost far far more money from the public purse. So although I'm quite happy for people to have opinions, the consequences of enacting this opinion would be a greater waste of public resources than just allowing people to park on the side of the road (in most cases).
- tim333 6y ago
  Well in practice you have a right usually to park your car on the street but not your hot tub because that's how things were designed and worked for decades and it's not going to change in a hurry. The public streets are controlled via the government by the public and they are mostly ok with it.

KaiserPro 6y ago

i mean thats what "road tax" is for....