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For years people will prefer non-electric cars. From a perspective of someone with his own driveway this is a nobrainer to have electric car but many people in

For years people will prefer non-electric cars. From a perspective of someone with his own driveway this is a nobrainer to have electric car but many people in EU live in apartment blocks and there is simply no infrastructure there to charge all necessary cars. I will be able to say that "no one should have a reason to drive petrol car" when 0-100 charge time will be around 15 minutes.

headmelted 6y ago
Or inexpensive (to install, not to use) and widespread charging becomes available in most locations. A normal 13A socket will charge my Leaf in about 12 hours. The 8 hours of charge I’d get from plugging in at a parking bay during work hours would likely be enough for most people, but we have no current infrastructure for billing people at that scale (although I imagine it could easily be developed, still a massive undertaking to roll out widely in cities though). We’d also need to be able to provide the massive increases in grid energy that would be required for that. Nuclear seems like it would be a good use case for this but that still seems like it would be a tough sell, even now.
- barnacled 6y ago
  For me I'd like the govt to address this and indicate how they intend to do so (most parking in the UK is on-street) - it's a huge infrastructure project.
  - headmelted 6y ago
    This. Even while we can just say “all we need is NFC payments at the road side and then just plug in the car” the infrastructure required to make that happen is colossal.
cyxxon 6y ago
I don't understand why you were downvoted. This is exactly it. I live in Germany, and bought a petrol gar this year. I'd love to have a battery EV. I simply cannot charge it anywhere, maybe at work (and since Corona started I have been to the office exactly once). There are like two public charging spots in the city of 320k people I live in (that I know of), and I'd say 70% or 80% of people here do not have a driveway or garage. As long as this infrastructure problem is not solved the government can make EV cars cheaper or not, as long as people cannot use them, petrol will go strong.
- csunbird 6y ago
  I also want to buy an EV, maybe a Tesla, but unfortunately, having long trips are nearly impossible, since the supercharger network is not adequate enough yet. I just can not afford having 2 hour breaks every 400 kilometers just to charge my car.

headmelted 6y ago

Or inexpensive (to install, not to use) and widespread charging becomes available in most locations. A normal 13A socket will charge my Leaf in about 12 hours. The 8 hours of charge I’d get from plugging in at a parking bay during work hours would likely be enough for most people, but we have no current infrastructure for billing people at that scale (although I imagine it could easily be developed, still a massive undertaking to roll out widely in cities though). We’d also need to be able to provide the massive increases in grid energy that would be required for that. Nuclear seems like it would be a good use case for this but that still seems like it would be a tough sell, even now.

barnacled 6y ago
For me I'd like the govt to address this and indicate how they intend to do so (most parking in the UK is on-street) - it's a huge infrastructure project.
- headmelted 6y ago
  This. Even while we can just say “all we need is NFC payments at the road side and then just plug in the car” the infrastructure required to make that happen is colossal.

cyxxon 6y ago

I don't understand why you were downvoted. This is exactly it. I live in Germany, and bought a petrol gar this year. I'd love to have a battery EV. I simply cannot charge it anywhere, maybe at work (and since Corona started I have been to the office exactly once). There are like two public charging spots in the city of 320k people I live in (that I know of), and I'd say 70% or 80% of people here do not have a driveway or garage. As long as this infrastructure problem is not solved the government can make EV cars cheaper or not, as long as people cannot use them, petrol will go strong.

csunbird 6y ago
I also want to buy an EV, maybe a Tesla, but unfortunately, having long trips are nearly impossible, since the supercharger network is not adequate enough yet. I just can not afford having 2 hour breaks every 400 kilometers just to charge my car.