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You have it backwards. You don't think that dictators don't meddle with their election results and then silence anyone who questions the integrity of it? Being

by ulucs 6y ago

You have it backwards. You don't think that dictators don't meddle with their election results and then silence anyone who questions the integrity of it? Being able to question the system is what supports democracy. Else you'll get a hundred years more of DNC screwing over candidates like Bernie or Tulsi in favor of candidates like Hillary or Joe. (This claim is disputed. Learn more about how DNC upholds integrity)

Barrin92 6y ago
>Being able to question the system is what supports democracy Questing processes when there is legitimate doubt supports democracy, "Questioning" the system when there is no evidence of wrong-doing undermines trust in a functioning system and improves democracy about as much as creationism or Flat-Eartherism improves science.
- lawnchair_larry 6y ago
  Nobody can say that there is no legitimate doubt in any outcome that was this close. It doesn’t matter what your party is. It’s also demonstrably false that there is no evidence of wrongdoing. Wrongdoing of various kinds has already been confirmed. It also doesn’t require wrongdoing to have doubt, which had also already been proven. That’s not even an open question. The open question is whether or not there may have been enough of it to affect the result. And there is room for reasonable doubt there.
- ulucs 6y ago
  Why do I need to trust the system when we could have verifiability? No one trusts the system in my country, which is what makes the people trust the results - they can see everything with their own eyes. What happened to make democrats turn into this authoritarian behaviour that condemns questioning of any kind? Let people insist the earth is flat, that the sun is revolving around the earth etc. You see the people believing in that stuff beneath you, so you should be able to convince them of the truth using experiments and whatnot if you're so great.

by ulucs 6y ago

Barrin92 6y ago

>Being able to question the system is what supports democracy Questing processes when there is legitimate doubt supports democracy, "Questioning" the system when there is no evidence of wrong-doing undermines trust in a functioning system and improves democracy about as much as creationism or Flat-Eartherism improves science.

lawnchair_larry 6y ago
Nobody can say that there is no legitimate doubt in any outcome that was this close. It doesn’t matter what your party is. It’s also demonstrably false that there is no evidence of wrongdoing. Wrongdoing of various kinds has already been confirmed. It also doesn’t require wrongdoing to have doubt, which had also already been proven. That’s not even an open question. The open question is whether or not there may have been enough of it to affect the result. And there is room for reasonable doubt there.
ulucs 6y ago
Why do I need to trust the system when we could have verifiability? No one trusts the system in my country, which is what makes the people trust the results - they can see everything with their own eyes. What happened to make democrats turn into this authoritarian behaviour that condemns questioning of any kind? Let people insist the earth is flat, that the sun is revolving around the earth etc. You see the people believing in that stuff beneath you, so you should be able to convince them of the truth using experiments and whatnot if you're so great.