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Tribalism works. Most job openings are not advertised but are filled in with tribe members related to an existing employee. Many things can be called a 'Tribe'

Tribalism works. Most job openings are not advertised but are filled in with tribe members related to an existing employee. Many things can be called a 'Tribe' - alumni networks, friends-of-friends, same city, extended family, and on a larger scale, caste, nation, religion, earth (if you are visiting other galaxies). Nobody wants to credit their success to tribalism but it is a very dominant force in our lives. You need to be the right circles. Keep good company as they say. ... Or you can conveniently blame your fate on nepotism.

cryptica 6y ago
In tech and finance industry today, tribalism is everything. All success is because of tribalism, all failure is because of lack of tribalism.
op03 6y ago
It's a force but its only one force in a wide buffet table of forces that larger and larger groups of people are getting conscious about. Many of these forces and their underlying particles, waves, energies and fields haven't even been named yet or are just hard to measure at individual or population scales. We aren't talking about electromagnetism here where Coulomb, Gauss and Maxwell have produced neat equations. Sociology, Psychology and the under lying Neurochemisty/biology are where electromagnetic theories were in the 18th century. Within any tribe there are wide spectrums of personality types, biases, needs, motivations, group dynamics, leadership styles, genetic variations etc etc etc and when all that gets added up you have this massive ever changing hurricane like structure. It props up an Obama on one day and dumps a Hillary on another, irrespective of what their tribes do. Nothing is obvious. Yet. We still await the arrival of a Faraday or a Maxwell in those fields.
- carterklein13 6y ago
  This is an interesting take. As someone who is relatively interested in this stuff but by no means an expert (i.e. I've read a few pop-psych books), do you have any further reading I could do to see where you're coming from with this claim? Because, by my very limited understanding, I always thought something like electromagnetism was always thought to be "concrete," for lack of a better word - whereas I always thought that sociology and psychology were much more subjective fields (and this is why it's impossible to, for example, predict whether a stock will go up or down). Is there any reading to suggest the latter?
  - op03 6y ago
    Understanding the history of science gives a sense how progress works when dealing with things extremely complex . Here are 3 good starting points. 1. The little book of psychology (penguin randomhouse) charts the important milestones and people in psyc. (Michael Lewis's Undoing Project not many like but it shows why understanding complex non obvious things take time) 2. Faraday and Maxwell by Nancy Forbes charts how long and why it took long to stumble upon EM field theories. 3. Infinite Powers by Steven Stogratz charts the history of calculus. Which shows why it took thousands of years to get to Newton's Laws. Textbooks present the math without showing people the journey. Psychology and Sociology are going through those same moments Physics and Maths witnessed when new discoveries suddenly start exploding.
    - carterklein13 6y ago
      Super cool, I've never thought about it this way before. Having read about this stuff somewhat intensively, it just goes to show how many blind spots I have.

cryptica 6y ago

In tech and finance industry today, tribalism is everything. All success is because of tribalism, all failure is because of lack of tribalism.

op03 6y ago

It's a force but its only one force in a wide buffet table of forces that larger and larger groups of people are getting conscious about. Many of these forces and their underlying particles, waves, energies and fields haven't even been named yet or are just hard to measure at individual or population scales. We aren't talking about electromagnetism here where Coulomb, Gauss and Maxwell have produced neat equations. Sociology, Psychology and the under lying Neurochemisty/biology are where electromagnetic theories were in the 18th century. Within any tribe there are wide spectrums of personality types, biases, needs, motivations, group dynamics, leadership styles, genetic variations etc etc etc and when all that gets added up you have this massive ever changing hurricane like structure. It props up an Obama on one day and dumps a Hillary on another, irrespective of what their tribes do. Nothing is obvious. Yet. We still await the arrival of a Faraday or a Maxwell in those fields.

carterklein13 6y ago
This is an interesting take. As someone who is relatively interested in this stuff but by no means an expert (i.e. I've read a few pop-psych books), do you have any further reading I could do to see where you're coming from with this claim? Because, by my very limited understanding, I always thought something like electromagnetism was always thought to be "concrete," for lack of a better word - whereas I always thought that sociology and psychology were much more subjective fields (and this is why it's impossible to, for example, predict whether a stock will go up or down). Is there any reading to suggest the latter?
- op03 6y ago
  Understanding the history of science gives a sense how progress works when dealing with things extremely complex . Here are 3 good starting points. 1. The little book of psychology (penguin randomhouse) charts the important milestones and people in psyc. (Michael Lewis's Undoing Project not many like but it shows why understanding complex non obvious things take time) 2. Faraday and Maxwell by Nancy Forbes charts how long and why it took long to stumble upon EM field theories. 3. Infinite Powers by Steven Stogratz charts the history of calculus. Which shows why it took thousands of years to get to Newton's Laws. Textbooks present the math without showing people the journey. Psychology and Sociology are going through those same moments Physics and Maths witnessed when new discoveries suddenly start exploding.
  - carterklein13 6y ago
    Super cool, I've never thought about it this way before. Having read about this stuff somewhat intensively, it just goes to show how many blind spots I have.