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I concur. The amount of useless emails has gone through the roof, with a lot of the content being managers reminding people they are still there. Everyone cc'

I concur. The amount of useless emails has gone through the roof, with a lot of the content being managers reminding people they are still there. Everyone cc's everyone now. If someone wrote an email to the ALL distribution group back in the day and there were more than 2 replies to that email, someone would immediately lose their shit and tell everyone to stop replying-all. Now those reply-all email chains happen weekly, with junior VPs laying hot takes all over the place.

dbmikus 6y ago
A counter to this is Stripe's practice of ensuring that almost all emails end up on a mailing list so they aren't siloed just to the participants. I can find and search for relevant conversations that I wasn't first party to. The key then is to make sure your inbox only contains items directly to you or from specific mailing lists.
drivers99 6y ago
This probably sounds crazy but I barely even read email anymore. Everything real is handled in chat and group calls now, so I don’t have time to organize/clean that stuff up anyway. I’m changing jobs this week and leaving behind about 13,000 unread. Work has gone from asynchronous to synchronous.
- lcall 6y ago
  I was talking with a friend about this problem, and for what it may be worth I wrote a bunch of thoughts on what I do to manage email (simple site): http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html
Angostura 6y ago
This has been one of the main benefits of Teams for me, and I have pushed hard to get large group e-mails moved to Teams. You only have to @mention the people who really have to see. All the other's who would have previously have been cc:ed can simply review the messages if they are interested at their leisure, withou being pinged.
- stefan_ 6y ago
  Except Teams default is to ping for everything. Someone writes in a chat channel for a meeting from a month ago, watch your phone vibrate. It's madness.
  - Angostura 6y ago
    Use the Team, not the chat.
lcall 6y ago
Noted elsewhere also but: I was talking with a friend about this problem, and for what it may be worth I wrote a bunch of thoughts on what I do to manage email (simple site), to keep it at the very useful level that it hopefully can be: http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html

dbmikus 6y ago

A counter to this is Stripe's practice of ensuring that almost all emails end up on a mailing list so they aren't siloed just to the participants. I can find and search for relevant conversations that I wasn't first party to. The key then is to make sure your inbox only contains items directly to you or from specific mailing lists.

drivers99 6y ago

This probably sounds crazy but I barely even read email anymore. Everything real is handled in chat and group calls now, so I don’t have time to organize/clean that stuff up anyway. I’m changing jobs this week and leaving behind about 13,000 unread. Work has gone from asynchronous to synchronous.

lcall 6y ago
I was talking with a friend about this problem, and for what it may be worth I wrote a bunch of thoughts on what I do to manage email (simple site): http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html

Angostura 6y ago

This has been one of the main benefits of Teams for me, and I have pushed hard to get large group e-mails moved to Teams. You only have to @mention the people who really have to see. All the other's who would have previously have been cc:ed can simply review the messages if they are interested at their leisure, withou being pinged.

stefan_ 6y ago
Except Teams default is to ping for everything. Someone writes in a chat channel for a meeting from a month ago, watch your phone vibrate. It's madness.
- Angostura 6y ago
  Use the Team, not the chat.

lcall 6y ago

Noted elsewhere also but: I was talking with a friend about this problem, and for what it may be worth I wrote a bunch of thoughts on what I do to manage email (simple site), to keep it at the very useful level that it hopefully can be: http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html http://lukecall.net/e-9223372036854565565.html