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> Among this powerful elite which include all Central Committee members and provincial standing committee members, the share of women has gone up from a dismal

by arbuge 6y ago

> Among this powerful elite which include all Central Committee members and provincial standing committee members, the share of women has gone up from a dismal 7.6% to a still-dismal 8.4% from the 18th CC to the 19th CC. Among the post-62 cohort active in the 19th CC, only 11% of the elite are women. To be sure, as more cadres in the post-62 cohort enter the vice-provincial elite, the share of women may rise, but it would be surprising if this cohort had more than 15% of women in the end, which, again, is still dismal. The small share of women among the more promising members of the post-62 cohort suggests that the gender pattern in the CCP elite will continue with the dismal status quo of one female Politburo member at each congress, along with two to four full Central Committee members and a handful of alternate members. This status quo may well persist until the 22th Party Congress in 2032, based on current trajectories. I count four "dismals" :-)

mdorazio 6y ago
Worth noting is our own rather poor showing in elite politics in the US. Around 25% women in congress. And if you look at only Republicans it's under 9%. Yes, you read that correctly.
- peteretep 6y ago
  Something I’ve noticed about UK conservatism — and maybe it’s true for the US too — is that women and minorities are much better represented at the very top than at the MP/Congress level. The Tories have 25% female MPs, but are also responsible for both female PMs. Half of the Great Offices of State in the UK are currently occupied by minorities. And if you look at the historic willingness of the Tories to run ethnic and female candidates for very important roles, it’s considerably better than Labour: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Offices_of_State https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Offices_of_State I guess all I’m saying is that it’s worth factoring in proximity to power rather than just raw numbers
  - pasabagi 6y ago
    There's a simple logic to this. The center is left of the conservatives, so a woman or minority candidate allows them to capture swing voters. Racists and sexists will probably vote for them anyway. It's why Angela Merkel is such an effective politician. She essentially monopolizes the right, while being able to take positions that the right wing hate (e.g. on the refugee crisis), knowing they won't stop voting for her.
    - peteretep 6y ago
      > so a woman or minority candidate allows them to capture swing voters I don't think this is true. Thatcher, May, Priti Patel, Palin, and Andrea Leadsom are all hard-right enough that I don't believe any of them are more appealing to people in the center than white, male moderates like Cameron.
  - pydry 6y ago
    Running a minority candidate who shares your politics is a good way of deflecting (or even co-opting) a lot of 'woke' criticism. As true in Thatcher's day as it is with the supreme court today. I wonder if Biden isn't the same thing in reverse (an attempt to appeal to the curmudgeonly older white voters who are attracted to Trump with somebody who looks like them).
- oh_sigh 6y ago
  I don't think you should necessarily be depressed by this. The average age of a congressperson is ~60 years old. So the average congress person was born in 1960. Our current crop of congress people were raised in the 60s, by WWII veterans. Even if you think society underwent changes and is far more gender equitable now than it was in 1960, you wouldn't expect to see that start to take effect in top level leadership until much later. It's the same reason why you wouldn't expect to see a woman or a black person on the supreme court 15 years after women or blacks were allowed to become lawyers.
ibeckermayer 6y ago
This reads like a Babylon Bee satire of a useful idiot millennial journalist [1]. “We need more female genocidal tyrants!” [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot
blackrock 6y ago
It sounds like whatever white person wrote this will not be satisfied about anything done in China. Typical. They’re just grandstanding and projecting. Meanwhile, the Republicans have mediocre percentages of women in their leadership group. And even worse, they have an even worse number of minorities in their entire group. They claim to be the land of equality and freedom, but suspiciously, they don’t put minority people and women into leadership positions. They don’t even try to be about equality and opportunity themselves, but yet, here they are trying to find fault with another country. Hypocrites.

by arbuge 6y ago

mdorazio 6y ago

Worth noting is our own rather poor showing in elite politics in the US. Around 25% women in congress. And if you look at only Republicans it's under 9%. Yes, you read that correctly.

peteretep 6y ago
Something I’ve noticed about UK conservatism — and maybe it’s true for the US too — is that women and minorities are much better represented at the very top than at the MP/Congress level. The Tories have 25% female MPs, but are also responsible for both female PMs. Half of the Great Offices of State in the UK are currently occupied by minorities. And if you look at the historic willingness of the Tories to run ethnic and female candidates for very important roles, it’s considerably better than Labour: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Offices_of_State https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Offices_of_State I guess all I’m saying is that it’s worth factoring in proximity to power rather than just raw numbers
- pasabagi 6y ago
  There's a simple logic to this. The center is left of the conservatives, so a woman or minority candidate allows them to capture swing voters. Racists and sexists will probably vote for them anyway. It's why Angela Merkel is such an effective politician. She essentially monopolizes the right, while being able to take positions that the right wing hate (e.g. on the refugee crisis), knowing they won't stop voting for her.
  - peteretep 6y ago
    > so a woman or minority candidate allows them to capture swing voters I don't think this is true. Thatcher, May, Priti Patel, Palin, and Andrea Leadsom are all hard-right enough that I don't believe any of them are more appealing to people in the center than white, male moderates like Cameron.
- pydry 6y ago
  Running a minority candidate who shares your politics is a good way of deflecting (or even co-opting) a lot of 'woke' criticism. As true in Thatcher's day as it is with the supreme court today. I wonder if Biden isn't the same thing in reverse (an attempt to appeal to the curmudgeonly older white voters who are attracted to Trump with somebody who looks like them).
oh_sigh 6y ago
I don't think you should necessarily be depressed by this. The average age of a congressperson is ~60 years old. So the average congress person was born in 1960. Our current crop of congress people were raised in the 60s, by WWII veterans. Even if you think society underwent changes and is far more gender equitable now than it was in 1960, you wouldn't expect to see that start to take effect in top level leadership until much later. It's the same reason why you wouldn't expect to see a woman or a black person on the supreme court 15 years after women or blacks were allowed to become lawyers.

ibeckermayer 6y ago

This reads like a Babylon Bee satire of a useful idiot millennial journalist [1]. “We need more female genocidal tyrants!” [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot

blackrock 6y ago

It sounds like whatever white person wrote this will not be satisfied about anything done in China. Typical. They’re just grandstanding and projecting. Meanwhile, the Republicans have mediocre percentages of women in their leadership group. And even worse, they have an even worse number of minorities in their entire group. They claim to be the land of equality and freedom, but suspiciously, they don’t put minority people and women into leadership positions. They don’t even try to be about equality and opportunity themselves, but yet, here they are trying to find fault with another country. Hypocrites.