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Firefox doesn't stutter on infinite scroll sites like Twitter. Safari noticeably does, even in Big Sur. So I am torn between the two.

angristan 6y ago
Can confirm: https://reddit.com/r/Safari/comments/jubu6m/anyone_noticing_super_bad_scrolling_lag_on/ https://reddit.com/r/Safari/comments/jubu6m/anyone_noticing_...
hombre_fatal 6y ago
Praised with faint condemnation.
Klonoar 6y ago
I have the exact opposite experience, FWIW.
- imagetic 6y ago
  Same. Safari is by far the smoothest experience for me today.
  - beached_whale 6y ago
    Firefox is still a bit smoother, but just found the culprit too. It's 1Blocker.
    - beached_whale 6y ago
      To be fair, Firefox also has the eff extensions and UBO
      - hi5eyes 6y ago
        safari and ublock feel better
        beached_whale 6y ago
        There was something with UBlock or Adblock Plus in the past and if it wasn't UBO I wasn't sure if they were trust worthy. I think one went rogue and one started selling the ability to unblock ads. But, with Safari 14 being able to transform chrome extensions, I hope that some of the popular ones and EFF ones can migrate. I ended up migrating to Better as it uses Apple's API for this(I think it's a list of things to block), is OSS, and Apple seemed to be helping them with a change of ownership publicly and that lended some trust.
        rz2k 6y ago
        The short answer is that uBlock Origin is what almost all users are likely to want. uBlock (without Origin in the name) is property of the same owners as AdBlock Plus, and both extensions whitelist ads under their owners' "Acceptable Ads" program, with many of the advertisers paying for that special access.
  - Existenceblinks 6y ago
    Safari is worst for drag-and-drop, for certain amount of DOM nodes, it becomes undragable.
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astkaasa 6y ago
safari cannot preview ph videos like chrome/edge, that's a huge lost for me
- alwillis 6y ago
  It’s probably in a container format (WebM or Ogg?) that Chrome recognizes but Safari doesn't.
dustingetz 6y ago
scroll perf can be impacted by display scaling especially to non-native resolution, maybe someone else can fill in the specifics
alwillis 6y ago
I've not seen Safari stutter as you describe, especially with version 14 which got a big speed boost in general and especially on Big Sur. Here's a link to a tweet showing Safari with 400 tabs on a M1 MacBook Air… the performance is incredible. Turns out Chrome choked and became unresponsive when trying to do the same thing: https://twitter.com/panzer/status/1328790134548905985?s=20 https://twitter.com/panzer/status/1328790134548905985?s=20
- Betelgeuse90 6y ago
  I'm also seeing significant stuttering on Twitter on Big Sur on Safari 14.0.1. Chrome scrolls smoothly in comparison. Same deal on Reddit. Then again it was still the case before Big Sur and Safari 14, so I can't call it a regression.
mtgx 6y ago
Firefox has started hanging again for me sometimes, most likely due to their return to the "shared memory" architecture.

angristan 6y ago

Can confirm: https://reddit.com/r/Safari/comments/jubu6m/anyone_noticing_super_bad_scrolling_lag_on/ https://reddit.com/r/Safari/comments/jubu6m/anyone_noticing_...

hombre_fatal 6y ago

Praised with faint condemnation.

Klonoar 6y ago

I have the exact opposite experience, FWIW.

imagetic 6y ago
Same. Safari is by far the smoothest experience for me today.
- beached_whale 6y ago
  Firefox is still a bit smoother, but just found the culprit too. It's 1Blocker.
  - beached_whale 6y ago
    To be fair, Firefox also has the eff extensions and UBO
    - hi5eyes 6y ago
      safari and ublock feel better
      - beached_whale 6y ago
        There was something with UBlock or Adblock Plus in the past and if it wasn't UBO I wasn't sure if they were trust worthy. I think one went rogue and one started selling the ability to unblock ads. But, with Safari 14 being able to transform chrome extensions, I hope that some of the popular ones and EFF ones can migrate. I ended up migrating to Better as it uses Apple's API for this(I think it's a list of things to block), is OSS, and Apple seemed to be helping them with a change of ownership publicly and that lended some trust.
        rz2k 6y ago
        The short answer is that uBlock Origin is what almost all users are likely to want. uBlock (without Origin in the name) is property of the same owners as AdBlock Plus, and both extensions whitelist ads under their owners' "Acceptable Ads" program, with many of the advertisers paying for that special access.
- Existenceblinks 6y ago
  Safari is worst for drag-and-drop, for certain amount of DOM nodes, it becomes undragable.
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astkaasa 6y ago

safari cannot preview ph videos like chrome/edge, that's a huge lost for me

alwillis 6y ago
It’s probably in a container format (WebM or Ogg?) that Chrome recognizes but Safari doesn't.

dustingetz 6y ago

scroll perf can be impacted by display scaling especially to non-native resolution, maybe someone else can fill in the specifics

alwillis 6y ago

I've not seen Safari stutter as you describe, especially with version 14 which got a big speed boost in general and especially on Big Sur. Here's a link to a tweet showing Safari with 400 tabs on a M1 MacBook Air… the performance is incredible. Turns out Chrome choked and became unresponsive when trying to do the same thing: https://twitter.com/panzer/status/1328790134548905985?s=20 https://twitter.com/panzer/status/1328790134548905985?s=20

Betelgeuse90 6y ago
I'm also seeing significant stuttering on Twitter on Big Sur on Safari 14.0.1. Chrome scrolls smoothly in comparison. Same deal on Reddit. Then again it was still the case before Big Sur and Safari 14, so I can't call it a regression.

mtgx 6y ago

Firefox has started hanging again for me sometimes, most likely due to their return to the "shared memory" architecture.