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Really? You've never traveled much in Chicago, LA, NYC? I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dy

Really? You've never traveled much in Chicago, LA, NYC? I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dystopian dump.

burnthrow 6y ago
The city definitely has its rougher parts. I would not wander around Bayview/Hunter's Point area for fun at night.
whimsicalism 6y ago
NYC yes, Chicago and LA, only brief visits. But yes, I was in the Tenderloin at 1 am on a weekday and felt unsafe and was followed by some people saying they would kill me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
deathanatos 6y ago
> I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dystopian dump. * I watched a man push another man into the street. The man pushed into the street drew a knife on the first man. This was around noon (we were out for lunch), in broad daylight. McAllister & Leavenworth * I was openly approached to buy what was most likely not legal drugs. (I was noping out of there and trying to position myself between him & my now-finacée as fast as possible, so I couldn't really tell you.) ~10:30p, 8th & Folsom. * Not technically SF, but a man entered the Caltrain car I was on screaming obscenities, muttering to himself, and making death threats to those in the car simply for looking at him. Sometime in the evening, slightly north of MTV. I believe he was detained at MTV. Not to say I've not seen other stuff in other cities. But, "never felt unsafe anywhere in SF" … yeah, no. Esp. around Civic center, it's super sketch. (That said, the original "lawless" and "dangerous to enter into" comment is also overboard. SF is a fine city, parts of it are quite nice. But there are parts where you should have your wits about you, too.)
- lovehashbrowns 6y ago
  I went around the Civic Center once and didn't feel unsafe, but that was during the early-ish evening. Tenderloin was definitely sketch but I didn't feel personally unsafe. I've also seen a lot of awful things, like one dude beat the shit out of another in broad daylight, but again I didn't feel personally unsafe. What I'm more used to is growing up in a bad neighborhood in Chicago in the 90s where I actually felt unsafe because the odds of getting robbed at gunpoint or getting beat up were very high. "Walking around" meant avoiding specific areas, avoiding alleyways, getting away from groups, not traveling alone, not having anything worth more than a dozen dollars on me or any clothing worth more than that, etc.

Really? You've never traveled much in Chicago, LA, NYC? I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dystopian dump.

burnthrow 6y ago

The city definitely has its rougher parts. I would not wander around Bayview/Hunter's Point area for fun at night.

whimsicalism 6y ago

NYC yes, Chicago and LA, only brief visits. But yes, I was in the Tenderloin at 1 am on a weekday and felt unsafe and was followed by some people saying they would kill me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

deathanatos 6y ago

> I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dystopian dump. * I watched a man push another man into the street. The man pushed into the street drew a knife on the first man. This was around noon (we were out for lunch), in broad daylight. McAllister & Leavenworth * I was openly approached to buy what was most likely not legal drugs. (I was noping out of there and trying to position myself between him & my now-finacée as fast as possible, so I couldn't really tell you.) ~10:30p, 8th & Folsom. * Not technically SF, but a man entered the Caltrain car I was on screaming obscenities, muttering to himself, and making death threats to those in the car simply for looking at him. Sometime in the evening, slightly north of MTV. I believe he was detained at MTV. Not to say I've not seen other stuff in other cities. But, "never felt unsafe anywhere in SF" … yeah, no. Esp. around Civic center, it's super sketch. (That said, the original "lawless" and "dangerous to enter into" comment is also overboard. SF is a fine city, parts of it are quite nice. But there are parts where you should have your wits about you, too.)

lovehashbrowns 6y ago
I went around the Civic Center once and didn't feel unsafe, but that was during the early-ish evening. Tenderloin was definitely sketch but I didn't feel personally unsafe. I've also seen a lot of awful things, like one dude beat the shit out of another in broad daylight, but again I didn't feel personally unsafe. What I'm more used to is growing up in a bad neighborhood in Chicago in the 90s where I actually felt unsafe because the odds of getting robbed at gunpoint or getting beat up were very high. "Walking around" meant avoiding specific areas, avoiding alleyways, getting away from groups, not traveling alone, not having anything worth more than a dozen dollars on me or any clothing worth more than that, etc.