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You're making a pretty big leap of assumption here. - he didn't say that he had biological kids - the step daughter is his own daughter, they aren't two diffe

by Kluny 6y ago

You're making a pretty big leap of assumption here. - he didn't say that he had biological kids - the step daughter is his own daughter, they aren't two different things - he didn't say that if he does have biological kids, that he didn't tear up at their graduation - he also didn't specify the ages of any of his kids, so there's no reason to assume that any others have graduated I'm curious as to where those assumptions came from?

TooRightKite 6y ago
True, on second reading he says "raising kids", not having them.
- treeman79 6y ago
  Have adopted from foster kid system. Pretty quick they are YOUR kid. Emotionally, It fills the same.
lallysingh 6y ago
Also, it's not like we're born with DNA testers. There's no reason why our instincts actually know the difference between our biological kids and others we've been with, played the same role with, and raised the same way.
- kortilla 6y ago
  Yes, but it depends on the age of the child when the relationship starts. My half sister was 13-ish about when my father married my mother (so my half sister’s step-mother). There was always an obvious difference in the way she bonded with my mom vs her biological mom. It’s still family, but more like an aunt at best. Despite never saying it, it’s pretty obvious my mother obviously views us differently as well having basically had no say in any of her step daughters formative years.
  - lallysingh 6y ago
    Of course. That makes perfect sense.
- borroka 6y ago
  That has been found to be empirically not true. As always, there is a distribution (see Homicide by Daly and Wilson, for example). Now, if we know by instinct, smell, or just because we know...
  - lallysingh 6y ago
    An interesting study might be parents who later learn that their kids aren't actually theirs. Did they treat their kids differently than real biological children? All kinds of ethical issues, etc., but the data would be awesome.
    - mqrs 6y ago
      Even if you could resolve the ethical issues, the only thing that a study would prove is that “people tend not to care for children that aren’t theirs”, and not “biological relation is necessary for a parent to be able to care for an adopted child”.
      - lallysingh 6y ago
        No I meant how people treated those kids before they learned that the kids weren't theirs.
    - borroka 6y ago
      We can assume that nobody treats them better and some will treat them worse. It follows that non-biological parents inevitably treat on average (and, very important, this is cross-sectional, not paired) their kids worse after they know they are not theirs. Directionally, there is little doubt.
Harvey-Specter 6y ago
> - he also didn't specify the ages of any of his kids, so there's no reason to assume that any others have graduated Well, he said he's an empty nester now. So...
DubiousPusher 6y ago
> - the step daughter is his own daughter, they aren't two different things Thank you.

by Kluny 6y ago

TooRightKite 6y ago

True, on second reading he says "raising kids", not having them.

treeman79 6y ago
Have adopted from foster kid system. Pretty quick they are YOUR kid. Emotionally, It fills the same.

lallysingh 6y ago

Also, it's not like we're born with DNA testers. There's no reason why our instincts actually know the difference between our biological kids and others we've been with, played the same role with, and raised the same way.

kortilla 6y ago
Yes, but it depends on the age of the child when the relationship starts. My half sister was 13-ish about when my father married my mother (so my half sister’s step-mother). There was always an obvious difference in the way she bonded with my mom vs her biological mom. It’s still family, but more like an aunt at best. Despite never saying it, it’s pretty obvious my mother obviously views us differently as well having basically had no say in any of her step daughters formative years.
- lallysingh 6y ago
  Of course. That makes perfect sense.
borroka 6y ago
That has been found to be empirically not true. As always, there is a distribution (see Homicide by Daly and Wilson, for example). Now, if we know by instinct, smell, or just because we know...
- lallysingh 6y ago
  An interesting study might be parents who later learn that their kids aren't actually theirs. Did they treat their kids differently than real biological children? All kinds of ethical issues, etc., but the data would be awesome.
  - mqrs 6y ago
    Even if you could resolve the ethical issues, the only thing that a study would prove is that “people tend not to care for children that aren’t theirs”, and not “biological relation is necessary for a parent to be able to care for an adopted child”.
    - lallysingh 6y ago
      No I meant how people treated those kids before they learned that the kids weren't theirs.
  - borroka 6y ago
    We can assume that nobody treats them better and some will treat them worse. It follows that non-biological parents inevitably treat on average (and, very important, this is cross-sectional, not paired) their kids worse after they know they are not theirs. Directionally, there is little doubt.

Harvey-Specter 6y ago

> - he also didn't specify the ages of any of his kids, so there's no reason to assume that any others have graduated Well, he said he's an empty nester now. So...

DubiousPusher 6y ago

> - the step daughter is his own daughter, they aren't two different things Thank you.