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> Parts of the city are lawless and a danger for people to venture into. What planet are you living on? This is not the case in any major US city, let alone Sa
by duskwuff 6y ago
> Parts of the city are lawless and a danger for people to venture into.
What planet are you living on? This is not the case in any major US city, let alone San Francisco.
- whimsicalism 6y agoI mean, there are certainly places in SF that are pretty sketch late at night, which is not something I've encountered in any other US city. I've lived in cities my entire life.
- vsssk 6y agoSkid row in LA? Parts of Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Oakland, Philadelphia, etc etc etc?
- whimsicalism 6y ago> Parts of Chicago, Baltimore, Detroit, Oakland, Philadelphia, etc etc etc? Yeah, I think how "sketch" the mid-atlantic cities are is mostly overrated by people afraid of black people. The mentally ill on the street are much more concerning safety-wise for me.
- rcpt 6y agoSkid row LA is unreal. I did not think that level of poverty existed in the first world. But it's pretty easy to avoid. SF seems to have more open air suffering spread throughout.
- lovehashbrowns 6y agoReally? You've never traveled much in Chicago, LA, NYC? I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dystopian dump.
- burnthrow 6y agoThe city definitely has its rougher parts. I would not wander around Bayview/Hunter's Point area for fun at night.
- whimsicalism 6y agoNYC yes, Chicago and LA, only brief visits. But yes, I was in the Tenderloin at 1 am on a weekday and felt unsafe and was followed by some people saying they would kill me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- deathanatos 6y ago> I never felt unsafe anywhere in San Francisco. That was the least of my concerns while I was in that dystopian dump. * I watched a man push another man into the street. The man pushed into the street drew a knife on the first man. This was around noon (we were out for lunch), in broad daylight. McAllister & Leavenworth * I was openly approached to buy what was most likely not legal drugs. (I was noping out of there and trying to position myself between him & my now-finacée as fast as possible, so I couldn't really tell you.) ~10:30p, 8th & Folsom. * Not technically SF, but a man entered the Caltrain car I was on screaming obscenities, muttering to himself, and making death threats to those in the car simply for looking at him. Sometime in the evening, slightly north of MTV. I believe he was detained at MTV. Not to say I've not seen other stuff in other cities. But, "never felt unsafe anywhere in SF" … yeah, no. Esp. around Civic center, it's super sketch. (That said, the original "lawless" and "dangerous to enter into" comment is also overboard. SF is a fine city, parts of it are quite nice. But there are parts where you should have your wits about you, too.)
- lovehashbrowns 6y agoI went around the Civic Center once and didn't feel unsafe, but that was during the early-ish evening. Tenderloin was definitely sketch but I didn't feel personally unsafe. I've also seen a lot of awful things, like one dude beat the shit out of another in broad daylight, but again I didn't feel personally unsafe. What I'm more used to is growing up in a bad neighborhood in Chicago in the 90s where I actually felt unsafe because the odds of getting robbed at gunpoint or getting beat up were very high. "Walking around" meant avoiding specific areas, avoiding alleyways, getting away from groups, not traveling alone, not having anything worth more than a dozen dollars on me or any clothing worth more than that, etc.
- duskwuff 6y agoSure. But there is an enormous gap between "an area that gets sketchy late at night" and "a lawless place that is dangerous to enter".