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Do you have a search engine that you prefer to use that claims not to store said information that I might try?
by WA9ACE 6y ago
Do you have a search engine that you prefer to use that claims not to store said information that I might try?
- metroholografix 6y agoThe only solution I see is fully distributed/decentralized search. Run your own crawler or be part of a network that distributes this out to each participating node. Every centralized search engine has immensely hard-to-resist and powerful incentives to play "The Eye of Sauron" with your data. Additionally, they offer single points of compromise to other, far more powerful actors. Whatever guarantees DuckDuckGo gives you -and right now they don't give any- don't mean much, if they've been thoroughly (willingly or unwillingly) compromised. Which doesn't mean one should always steer well clear just that one should at least be aware of the tradeoffs one makes when using a centralized search engine. And with DuckDuckGo's misleading marketing, I feel that this point is lost on significant chunks of its userbase.
- burnthrow 6y ago"Run your own crawler" is not a solution. Cool my comments are immediately downvoted like that Italian guy's.
- ravenstine 6y agoSuch search engines have been around for many years, and they suck donkey balls. Pardon my French. Install YaCy and tell me how you like it. It wouldn't matter anyway, because decentralization doesn't really solve privacy any better than centralized search, besides the fact that it could theoretically provide more choices. No matter what you use, privacy ultimately depends on trust. The reason that I have more trust for DDG than I do Google is, unlike Google, its primary audience is privacy-minded folks. If it came out that DDG was tracking users and selling that data, DDG would be immediately done as a brand. They at least have some incentive to do what they say. Decentralization provides no such benefit because a search "node" is unlikely to have any sort of meaningful brand to keep up. > And with DuckDuckGo's misleading marketing, I feel that this point is lost on significant chunks of its userbase. How is it misleading? My understanding from their marketing is that they don't create profiles of their users based on searches. Until we have evidence to the contrary, it's not outrageous to assume they are being truthful.
- unethical_ban 6y agoYeah, now you're just saying "Nothing centralized can ever be trusted". So just say that rather than nitpicking their ToS. You weren't going to care what they said anyway.
- h2onock 6y agoI can hand on heart tell you that Mojeek doesn’t and never has. I know this because I work for Mojeek.
- Pick-A-Hill2019 6y agoHi. I took a look at Mojeek (first time I've heard about it) and since you mentioned the site and you work there - In your Privacy page (Data Usage Section) there is a mention of stored "Browser Data" & " These logs contain the time of visit, page requested, possibly referral data, and located in a separate log browser information." & "We may also use aggregate, non-personal search data to improve our results". This is an honest question - How is that not exactly what the Parent stated was the issue? So they save your web searches and claim that they do so in an non-personally identifiable way.
- ricardo81 6y agoAn often referred to issue with DDG is that its favicon service was informing DDG of sites you visit, rather than searches you make. But agreed that all search engines have to be trusted on their word about anonymising data and not retaining PII when it comes to searches specifically. There's nothing any front end user can do to verify it.