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Since the beginning if the quarantine, 90,000 people left San Francisco. Nothing shocking when just spelt out.

renewiltord 6y ago
Absent anything else, I think 10% population drop is fairly significant. I guess we'll see in the city budget next year. Interestingly, because of the rapid growth in the city population over the last decade, this just puts it at 2010 numbers.
- lazyasciiart 6y ago
  This data doesn't tell us about anyone moving into San Francisco, so the drop may be much smaller.
  - WalterSear 6y ago
    IIRC I read that U-haul rentals from SF to Phoenix are currently $1500. From Phoenix to SF? $300.
- boomboomsubban 6y ago
  I think the budget for next year was already destined to be a mess because of the quarantine.
trianglesphere 6y ago
10% of the population leaving isn't a small number. Though I'm not sure what a normal turnover is for SF and how this compares.
- ardit33 6y ago
  SF used to be about 780k in 2010, before the pandemic, it was over 880k, so it is reverting back to 2010 levels... It is not alarming right now, but if the trend continues next year, it is going to be a major problem for the tax revenue. Raising taxes will not help in stoping the bleeding and make things worse... (SF is a city of renters, and they can easily leave)
  - burnthrow 6y ago
    It's also an egg in the face for the pro-growth "YIMBY"s.
    - freehunter 6y ago
      Maybe people wouldn't be leaving if they weren't paying $8k/mo for an apartment that's an hour commute from their office?
      - burnthrow 6y ago
        And yet, a cheaper COL "build-up" city like NYC is experiencing similar flight due particularly to high density. And SF is (or was) the second densest large city in the US.
        ghaff 6y ago
        Only in the context of SF is NYC (esp. Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn) a cheaper CoL city. (Though I think it does demonstrate that building up isn't some magical elixir for housing prices. See also e.g. Hong Kong.)
sukilot 6y ago
San Francisco population decimated -- succinct, correct, but sounds shocking.
- sologoub 6y ago
  As pointed out in another comment, this is just the outflow number. No word on any inflows. Personal anecdote - haven’t heard of anyone moving into SF in a while. EDIT: as pointed out in another comment, this data also doesn’t cover international migration without the ability to do a change of address.
- aeternum 6y ago
  Correct by the historical meaning of decimated, but I'd argue that in typical modern usage it means more than a 10% decrease.

Absent anything else, I think 10% population drop is fairly significant. I guess we'll see in the city budget next year. Interestingly, because of the rapid growth in the city population over the last decade, this just puts it at 2010 numbers.

lazyasciiart 6y ago
This data doesn't tell us about anyone moving into San Francisco, so the drop may be much smaller.
- WalterSear 6y ago
  IIRC I read that U-haul rentals from SF to Phoenix are currently $1500. From Phoenix to SF? $300.
boomboomsubban 6y ago
I think the budget for next year was already destined to be a mess because of the quarantine.

trianglesphere 6y ago

10% of the population leaving isn't a small number. Though I'm not sure what a normal turnover is for SF and how this compares.

ardit33 6y ago
SF used to be about 780k in 2010, before the pandemic, it was over 880k, so it is reverting back to 2010 levels... It is not alarming right now, but if the trend continues next year, it is going to be a major problem for the tax revenue. Raising taxes will not help in stoping the bleeding and make things worse... (SF is a city of renters, and they can easily leave)
- burnthrow 6y ago
  It's also an egg in the face for the pro-growth "YIMBY"s.
  - freehunter 6y ago
    Maybe people wouldn't be leaving if they weren't paying $8k/mo for an apartment that's an hour commute from their office?
    - burnthrow 6y ago
      And yet, a cheaper COL "build-up" city like NYC is experiencing similar flight due particularly to high density. And SF is (or was) the second densest large city in the US.
      - ghaff 6y ago
        Only in the context of SF is NYC (esp. Manhattan and parts of Brooklyn) a cheaper CoL city. (Though I think it does demonstrate that building up isn't some magical elixir for housing prices. See also e.g. Hong Kong.)

sukilot 6y ago

San Francisco population decimated -- succinct, correct, but sounds shocking.

sologoub 6y ago
As pointed out in another comment, this is just the outflow number. No word on any inflows. Personal anecdote - haven’t heard of anyone moving into SF in a while. EDIT: as pointed out in another comment, this data also doesn’t cover international migration without the ability to do a change of address.
aeternum 6y ago
Correct by the historical meaning of decimated, but I'd argue that in typical modern usage it means more than a 10% decrease.