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Why? What is your culture's cultural ideal?

watwut 6y ago
For whatever is worth, I don't find warrior ideal either. I associate that with someone who is source of danger and threat. Warriors around means that you have to go home shortest route and watch whether the room is dangerous. Athletes have good bodies, but that is about it.
- p2t2p 6y ago
  As one good book a read recently says: Be dangerous but not the danger. In think warrior ideal describes exactly that. You've got tools, skills and internal readiness to be the danger but you're not until it's necessary
- zarkov99 6y ago
  Sure, but morality aside there is something to be admired in people that do dangerous, frightnening and difficult things for a living.
  - kortilla 6y ago
    “Difficult” does not belong with the other two and I’m not sure we need to admire people who have to risk their lives so much as pity them. It’s unfortunate we have so many roles in society that still require that.
    - engineer_22 6y ago
      I think life without risk or discomfort would be very boring indeed.
    - zarkov99 6y ago
      You would be surprised as to how many of these people would pity and politely dismiss most of richer and softer types of human that inhabit tech.
      - kortilla 6y ago
        Nothing to do with rich or “softer”. There are jobs that are dangerous that pay quite well and require little physical prowess.
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antisthenes 6y ago
I think you might have missed the point of my post. It's laughable because it is so far from reality, not because the ideals are something to be laughed at.
- zarkov99 6y ago
  I would argue that American males are closer to the warrior archetype than any other democracy. We certainly have fought more actual wars than any other advanced nation, we have the best combat athletes in the world, many of us hunt, shoot and practice warrior like skills. I am hard pressed to think of any other modern society that comes even close.
  - mrmonkeyman 6y ago
    95% of your population is _not_ fighting wars and is not manly in the slightest. You just have allocated a sickening chunk of your significant GDP to the military machine. If you are looking for a high percentage hardass peoples I'd look in the baltic regions, Russia comes to mind. Some African nations too. Americans are lazy and fat and know no hardship. Which is fine. Good actually. Just don't parade the warrior archetype.

For whatever is worth, I don't find warrior ideal either. I associate that with someone who is source of danger and threat. Warriors around means that you have to go home shortest route and watch whether the room is dangerous. Athletes have good bodies, but that is about it.

p2t2p 6y ago
As one good book a read recently says: Be dangerous but not the danger. In think warrior ideal describes exactly that. You've got tools, skills and internal readiness to be the danger but you're not until it's necessary
zarkov99 6y ago
Sure, but morality aside there is something to be admired in people that do dangerous, frightnening and difficult things for a living.
- kortilla 6y ago
  “Difficult” does not belong with the other two and I’m not sure we need to admire people who have to risk their lives so much as pity them. It’s unfortunate we have so many roles in society that still require that.
  - engineer_22 6y ago
    I think life without risk or discomfort would be very boring indeed.
  - zarkov99 6y ago
    You would be surprised as to how many of these people would pity and politely dismiss most of richer and softer types of human that inhabit tech.
    - kortilla 6y ago
      Nothing to do with rich or “softer”. There are jobs that are dangerous that pay quite well and require little physical prowess.

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antisthenes 6y ago

I think you might have missed the point of my post. It's laughable because it is so far from reality, not because the ideals are something to be laughed at.

zarkov99 6y ago
I would argue that American males are closer to the warrior archetype than any other democracy. We certainly have fought more actual wars than any other advanced nation, we have the best combat athletes in the world, many of us hunt, shoot and practice warrior like skills. I am hard pressed to think of any other modern society that comes even close.
- mrmonkeyman 6y ago
  95% of your population is _not_ fighting wars and is not manly in the slightest. You just have allocated a sickening chunk of your significant GDP to the military machine. If you are looking for a high percentage hardass peoples I'd look in the baltic regions, Russia comes to mind. Some African nations too. Americans are lazy and fat and know no hardship. Which is fine. Good actually. Just don't parade the warrior archetype.