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Looks interesting -- however much of the app does not work if www.googletagmanager.com is blocked. Is that necessary to the functionality or just an oversight?

rubanraj 6y ago
Late on this...but what are you using to block googletagmanager?
tristor 6y ago
I encountered the same issue. I refuse to whitelist blatant third-party trackers to use a service, so I checked it and then immediately closed the tab.
- Raphmedia 6y ago
  Not only that but it makes sharing the website a chore. Half the people you share it to will complain that it's not working at all... and try telling someone "here's a random link, make sure to disable your anti-trackers to visit it!"
  - cdubzzz 6y ago
    Do general tracking blockers and mainstream lists block GTM though? I use a massive combined listed on a pi-hole so not sure which one it comes from. Just curious as there are, theoretically, non-invasive, non-ad tracking use cases for GTM.
    - Silhouette 6y ago
      I think Google ran out of good will/benefit of the doubt when it comes to tracking tech a long time ago. AFAIK, every blocker tool I use on any platform, which probably includes most of the well-known ones by now, will block GTM in the default configuration. If a site doesn't work properly with GTM blocked, legitimate use case or not, personally I normally just move on. Unless I have a compelling reason to need that site, I won't make any attempt to work around it or change my blocker settings. The only Google property I'm aware of that isn't routinely blocked by these kinds of tools now is Google Fonts, and I think some of them even block that by default now.
    - nitrogen 6y ago
      GTM is usually the wedge that marketing uses to pry its way into a site's code without engineering involvement, and thus blocking GTM will often prevent a huge list of other trackers, ads, and late-loading content changes from being loaded.
unethical_ban 6y ago
I'm running it in a private tab with all tracking protection and ublock off, and it is still slow. Slashdotted, maybe?
rubanraj 6y ago
Definitely an oversight. I'll fix it right away. My apologies.
- cdubzzz 6y ago
  Thanks! Now you’ll just have the big traffic bump to deal with (:

rubanraj 6y ago

Late on this...but what are you using to block googletagmanager?

tristor 6y ago

I encountered the same issue. I refuse to whitelist blatant third-party trackers to use a service, so I checked it and then immediately closed the tab.

Raphmedia 6y ago
Not only that but it makes sharing the website a chore. Half the people you share it to will complain that it's not working at all... and try telling someone "here's a random link, make sure to disable your anti-trackers to visit it!"
- cdubzzz 6y ago
  Do general tracking blockers and mainstream lists block GTM though? I use a massive combined listed on a pi-hole so not sure which one it comes from. Just curious as there are, theoretically, non-invasive, non-ad tracking use cases for GTM.
  - Silhouette 6y ago
    I think Google ran out of good will/benefit of the doubt when it comes to tracking tech a long time ago. AFAIK, every blocker tool I use on any platform, which probably includes most of the well-known ones by now, will block GTM in the default configuration. If a site doesn't work properly with GTM blocked, legitimate use case or not, personally I normally just move on. Unless I have a compelling reason to need that site, I won't make any attempt to work around it or change my blocker settings. The only Google property I'm aware of that isn't routinely blocked by these kinds of tools now is Google Fonts, and I think some of them even block that by default now.
  - nitrogen 6y ago
    GTM is usually the wedge that marketing uses to pry its way into a site's code without engineering involvement, and thus blocking GTM will often prevent a huge list of other trackers, ads, and late-loading content changes from being loaded.

unethical_ban 6y ago

I'm running it in a private tab with all tracking protection and ublock off, and it is still slow. Slashdotted, maybe?

rubanraj 6y ago

Definitely an oversight. I'll fix it right away. My apologies.

cdubzzz 6y ago
Thanks! Now you’ll just have the big traffic bump to deal with (: