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Also, nonsensical restrictions mixed in with reasonable restrictions in a seemingly ad hoc way have eroded trust in local leadership. Around here, government c

Also, nonsensical restrictions mixed in with reasonable restrictions in a seemingly ad hoc way have eroded trust in local leadership. Around here, government construction projects were allowed to continue while private ones were halted. Outdoor walks encouraged, but fishing disallowed. And plenty more. Now, indoor dining and gyms are closed again even though they are not contributing to the recent spike. Also, don't forget the well publicized disregard of restrictions by some politicians who enacted or advocate for those same restrictions. The giant funeral for John Lewis was a special case too. Back then funerals for little people had severe restrictions. The number of deaths in my 2.5million pop. urban county has been 1 per day since mid-June. The number of cases has gone up and down since then till now with no variance in deaths. At a certain point people get tired of the bullshit.

bigphishy 6y ago
Fishing was not allowed? Ok now I am curious, what area are you talking about?
- Anthony-G 6y ago
  I don’t know which country is being talked about here but if I had to guess why fishing is proscribed, I’d hyphothesize that fishing had alwasy been classified by the state as being a “sport” (allowing fishing bodies to apply for grants, licences, etc.). Then, when Covid-19 mitigation measures were being drafted, all sporting activities were proscribed (possibly because many sports involve risk of transmission between participants and/or spectators. This is what happened in my country (Ireland) with hunting clubs. Despite being an activity that is pursued by individuals or very small groups, they were caught under a similarly wide umbrella. I don’t envy legislators the task of having to drill down into every aspect of human behaviour and make ongoing risk assessments for it. For Level 5 restrictions in Ireland, a huge amount of effort went into determining what goods should be considered as “essential” so that shops selling them could stay open. Needless to say, they didn’t get it right and there are inconisistencies. However, legislators have to react quickly to changing circumstances while maintaining the requirement that their work be legally sound. Under such circumstances, I don’t expect the new (and temporary) rules to be perfect in every way. The best we can hope for is that they get the big picture right.
  - pnw_hazor 6y ago
    It was in Washington State in the US. The shutdown order came from the Governor and was enforced by the state department of fishing and wildlife. Now, guided fishing and fishing tours still have some reasonable restrictions but non-guided fishing and non-guided hunting are pretty much back to normal. Strict lockdown rules were announced this past Sunday, I am not sure if they impact fishing or hunting -- it doesn't sound like it.
- pnw_hazor 6y ago
  Recreational fishing was closed state-wide in Washington State for about a month as part of the initial lock-down. Granted it wasn't closed that long but the damage to 'follow the science' credibility was done. There were protests and public ridicule which probably led to the quick turn-around.

bigphishy 6y ago

Fishing was not allowed? Ok now I am curious, what area are you talking about?

Anthony-G 6y ago
I don’t know which country is being talked about here but if I had to guess why fishing is proscribed, I’d hyphothesize that fishing had alwasy been classified by the state as being a “sport” (allowing fishing bodies to apply for grants, licences, etc.). Then, when Covid-19 mitigation measures were being drafted, all sporting activities were proscribed (possibly because many sports involve risk of transmission between participants and/or spectators. This is what happened in my country (Ireland) with hunting clubs. Despite being an activity that is pursued by individuals or very small groups, they were caught under a similarly wide umbrella. I don’t envy legislators the task of having to drill down into every aspect of human behaviour and make ongoing risk assessments for it. For Level 5 restrictions in Ireland, a huge amount of effort went into determining what goods should be considered as “essential” so that shops selling them could stay open. Needless to say, they didn’t get it right and there are inconisistencies. However, legislators have to react quickly to changing circumstances while maintaining the requirement that their work be legally sound. Under such circumstances, I don’t expect the new (and temporary) rules to be perfect in every way. The best we can hope for is that they get the big picture right.
- pnw_hazor 6y ago
  It was in Washington State in the US. The shutdown order came from the Governor and was enforced by the state department of fishing and wildlife. Now, guided fishing and fishing tours still have some reasonable restrictions but non-guided fishing and non-guided hunting are pretty much back to normal. Strict lockdown rules were announced this past Sunday, I am not sure if they impact fishing or hunting -- it doesn't sound like it.
pnw_hazor 6y ago
Recreational fishing was closed state-wide in Washington State for about a month as part of the initial lock-down. Granted it wasn't closed that long but the damage to 'follow the science' credibility was done. There were protests and public ridicule which probably led to the quick turn-around.