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No local access and/or physical control => don't buy it. No exceptions.

by pmlnr 6y ago

coldtea 6y ago
We'll buy what we want. No exceptions. (I mean, I get the point, and I agree, but I don't like people assuming they know better than everybody else what kind of compromises make sense for them)
Solocomplex 6y ago
Leaving about 0 plug and play options left...
knorker 6y ago
My thermostat still works fine, it seems. The App doesn't work, but it's back to being a "dumb" thermonstat.
ardy42 6y ago
> No local access and/or physical control => don't buy it. No exceptions. Are there any thermostats like that? The only mass market product like that that I know of like is Philips Hue lights (their base stations have a local REST API, or at least they did last time I really used them). My "don't buy it" threshold is unnecessarily cloud-only features or mandatory cloud integration. I should be able to take full advantage of the product's features without that extra dependency.
- herbst 6y ago
  There are plenty of no name products or chinese brands. I ordered a bunch of sonoff devices not to long ago to be controlled on my rpi with a conbee. My wiz bulbs are also locally controlled, my no name cams exposed via http anyway ... Its not exactly hard finding such devices these days. Often they require a cloud connection for only the initial setup. Nest and co was totally out of question for me because of the forced cloud.
silicon2401 6y ago
what's a better alternative for home security cameras? Eufy? I'm looking for something I can view from a phone
wayneftw 6y ago
I was shopping for a smart socket to turn my pool cover pump on and off from inside the house. I specifically went out of my way to find a Bluetooth one instead of one that uses Wi-Fi. Then when I receive it I find out that I have to install some stupid app (Avi-on) that requires a freaking account to use. A couple days after I sign up for the account and now I am receiving all sorts of spam. You just can’t win against greed.

No local access and/or physical control => don't buy it. No exceptions.

by pmlnr 6y ago

No local access and/or physical control => don't buy it. No exceptions.

We'll buy what we want. No exceptions. (I mean, I get the point, and I agree, but I don't like people assuming they know better than everybody else what kind of compromises make sense for them)

Solocomplex 6y ago

Leaving about 0 plug and play options left...

knorker 6y ago

My thermostat still works fine, it seems. The App doesn't work, but it's back to being a "dumb" thermonstat.

ardy42 6y ago

> No local access and/or physical control => don't buy it. No exceptions. Are there any thermostats like that? The only mass market product like that that I know of like is Philips Hue lights (their base stations have a local REST API, or at least they did last time I really used them). My "don't buy it" threshold is unnecessarily cloud-only features or mandatory cloud integration. I should be able to take full advantage of the product's features without that extra dependency.

herbst 6y ago
There are plenty of no name products or chinese brands. I ordered a bunch of sonoff devices not to long ago to be controlled on my rpi with a conbee. My wiz bulbs are also locally controlled, my no name cams exposed via http anyway ... Its not exactly hard finding such devices these days. Often they require a cloud connection for only the initial setup. Nest and co was totally out of question for me because of the forced cloud.

silicon2401 6y ago

what's a better alternative for home security cameras? Eufy? I'm looking for something I can view from a phone

wayneftw 6y ago

I was shopping for a smart socket to turn my pool cover pump on and off from inside the house. I specifically went out of my way to find a Bluetooth one instead of one that uses Wi-Fi. Then when I receive it I find out that I have to install some stupid app (Avi-on) that requires a freaking account to use. A couple days after I sign up for the account and now I am receiving all sorts of spam. You just can’t win against greed.