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If you require Docker, the Apple Silicon machines are not an option, and won't be for at least a little while. https://www.docker.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-chi

If you require Docker, the Apple Silicon machines are not an option, and won't be for at least a little while. https://www.docker.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-chips-and-docker/ https://www.docker.com/blog/apple-silicon-m1-chips-and-docke...

andy_ppp 6y ago
Didn’t they mention Docker specifically in the Apple Event? Obviously it won’t work properly for 6 months at least...
cactus2093 6y ago
Interesting, although seems like they kind of buried the lede. Surely the go toolchain and Electron should already work find on Rosetta? Getting some new Mac Minis for CI should only take a week or two. What's unclear from this is if the hypervisor even supports everything they need or if they're waiting on Apple for more features, and how much work it'll require on their end to support the new hypervisor. Since Docker for Mac is closed source I think we're just waiting on the company for it as well. I wonder if we're looking at a month, 6 months, or multiple years?
hinkley 6y ago
To be fair, a developer-worthy M1 machine is still going to be 'a little while'. But once that machine is out the previous model quickly ceases to be an option, so I have to sort it out based on speculation.
tyre 6y ago
Is it just me or are the current offering of M1 chips not developer machines anyway? They max at 16GB RAM. That's a huge limiting factor by itself. If they can work out Docker before 32GB memory MBP, then it seems fine.
- acdha 6y ago
  It depends on your work. Since many developers are using cloud services for serious testing, an awful lot of people are just fine with 8GB for Docker + VSCode + Firefox/Chrome + Slack. There are people who need massive in-memory models or huge compilations but that’s far from universal.
- joking 6y ago
  I would like to know how many 8gb ram, 16gb ram and 32gb ram laptops sold apple, I suspect the 32gb market size is not as big as people seems to think. I user docker, virtual machines and a lot of chrome, and have plenty headspace with 16gb.
eli 6y ago
Sure, but that really seems like it will be a matter of weeks. But on the other hand I don't think VirtualBox is going to happen at all.

andy_ppp 6y ago

Didn’t they mention Docker specifically in the Apple Event? Obviously it won’t work properly for 6 months at least...

cactus2093 6y ago

Interesting, although seems like they kind of buried the lede. Surely the go toolchain and Electron should already work find on Rosetta? Getting some new Mac Minis for CI should only take a week or two. What's unclear from this is if the hypervisor even supports everything they need or if they're waiting on Apple for more features, and how much work it'll require on their end to support the new hypervisor. Since Docker for Mac is closed source I think we're just waiting on the company for it as well. I wonder if we're looking at a month, 6 months, or multiple years?

hinkley 6y ago

To be fair, a developer-worthy M1 machine is still going to be 'a little while'. But once that machine is out the previous model quickly ceases to be an option, so I have to sort it out based on speculation.

tyre 6y ago

Is it just me or are the current offering of M1 chips not developer machines anyway? They max at 16GB RAM. That's a huge limiting factor by itself. If they can work out Docker before 32GB memory MBP, then it seems fine.

acdha 6y ago
It depends on your work. Since many developers are using cloud services for serious testing, an awful lot of people are just fine with 8GB for Docker + VSCode + Firefox/Chrome + Slack. There are people who need massive in-memory models or huge compilations but that’s far from universal.
joking 6y ago
I would like to know how many 8gb ram, 16gb ram and 32gb ram laptops sold apple, I suspect the 32gb market size is not as big as people seems to think. I user docker, virtual machines and a lot of chrome, and have plenty headspace with 16gb.

eli 6y ago

Sure, but that really seems like it will be a matter of weeks. But on the other hand I don't think VirtualBox is going to happen at all.